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Hi, I've been registering at online computer boutique builders, and other computer forums like crazy.  After months of research I still check out those other builders but they just seem risky.  So I'm here to see what these HP machines are like now a days.  I had a refurbished HP Pavilion several years ago but have since gave it to my mom  it still works great although it's a little slow.  I've been looking at the Pavilion elites but I'm scared to try them because of those BSOD and stuff.  I plan on getting a somewhat custom computer from HP if I go that route by using the online configurators. I don't really want to spend over a thousand and if I select the AMD line of Pavilion Elites I can get the machine I want for under a thousand with a blu ray drive, a good graphics card,and a monitor.  However, like I said I'm scared of the BSOD and constant restarting and such.  I was not familure with that however untill I browsed these forums.  So I'm wondering, what lines of computers have that problem?  Would I be fine with an AMD elite or should I go for the regular pavilion?  I plan on playing some newer games, emulating other gaming systems, surfing the interweb, music, photos and everything else people do with computers.

I also imagine the computers come completely assembled and tested before they come to you in the mail?  I would have a problem if they were not assembled.  Heck if anything was not right in the computer I would have to send it back because I'm not confident and feel uncomfortable opening the case and messing with things.  Any thoughts? Thanks.
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11-07-2009 12:23 AM
 
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AD, okay, take it from an old dude, you can do anything on a computer that needs to be done.  Today's computers are not your mom's computer.  They are made for those of us who want to save money on repairs.  Heck, I built my first computer when I was over 60.

 

I will tell you true, you can have problems with any brand of computer or component.  There is no such thing as a perfectly problem-free electronic device.  However, I have been helping on these forums since 2002.  I have recommended HP computers to three family members in the past 1-1/2 years, two desktops and one laptop/notebook.  They are all very pleased with their purchases and have had no problems that they didn't cause themselves.

 

One of the biggest assets of buying a HP computer is this forum.  We have taught members, who no doubt know less than you, how to change hard drives, video cards, memory and power supply units (PSU).  These are the most common components.

 

I agree with your choice of AMD CPU's.  I believe that Intel may be a bit faster right now, but AMD still is considerably less money.  The only way that you will notice the difference in speed is if you do benchmarks.  Your eyes can't see the difference.

 

Yes, the pre-built computers come completely assembled.  The most that you will have to do is connect the monitor.  I highly suggest buying one that has Win7 already installed.  It seems to be far better than Vista.

 

Before you buy, give allot of thought to how you will be using the computer.  If price is the only reason for buying it, you may be sorry later.  A few dollars more now, can save you a few more dollars later.  If you will let us know what you want to do with it, we will do our best to help you buy one that will make you happy for a long while.  Find the computer and provide a link to it.  We will review it to give you some pointers.

 

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Well the main reason I'm looking for a new computer is so I can play games.  I will also be playing music, surfing the interweb and possibly watching blu ray movies but they can all pretty much do that.   The gateway laptop I'm using just isn't good for any type of gaming.  I got this thing three years ago for 500 bucks refurbished.  Heck I've played some games on here but they were pretty painful to play.  I don't plan on playing games like crysis, but rather new and older RPGs and some racing.  I plan on running older game system emulators such as those that emulate the PSX and SNES.  That's all I'll say about that because someone might take it the wrong way.  The majority of my time using the computer however will probably not be for gaming but basic tasks.

One thing I'm not too sure about is how to play blu ray movies on a computer.  It sounds like it's even harder than trying to get them to work with a regular blu ray player connected to a TV set.  Blu Ray actually sounds more primative then DVD, but I suppose we're going to be going to that soon so I have to get used to it.

Here's an HP build that I thought might work for casual gaming


Your e9200z series

Operating system:    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit    edit

Processor:    AMD Athlon(TM) X4 620 quad-core processor [2.6GHz, 2MB L2, up to 4000MT/s bus]    edit

Memory:    4GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs]    edit

Hard drive:    500GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive    edit

Graphics card:    1GB ATI Radeon HD 4650 [DVI, HDMI, VGA]    edit

Primary optical drive:    LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive    edit

Secondary optical drive:    Blu-ray ROM (player)    edit

Networking:    Wireless-N LAN card    edit

Front Productivity Ports:    15-in-1 memory card reader, 1 USB, 1394, audio    edit

TV & entertainment experience:    No TV Tuner    edit

Sound Card:    Integrated 7.1 channel sound with front audio ports    edit

Speakers:    No speakers    edit

Keyboard and Mouse:    HP multimedia keyboard and HP optical mouse    edit

Productivity software:    Microsoft(R) Works 9.0    edit

Security software:    Norton Internet Security(TM) 2010 - 15 month    edit

Your additional options:

Click edit to modify. NOTE: These items are in stock and will ship immediately.

Monitor    HP 2159m 21.5-inch 16:9 Full HD Widescreen Monitor    edit

Total:     
$934.98



Then there is an acer I saw at newegg that also looked like it would work well for me(can I say that? I mean it's an HP board). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103230 I would just need to add a monitor and an external blu ray drive and I would be good.
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AD, the configuration that you have listed makes a very good gamer.  The only change that I would suggest is upgrading to the ATI HD4850.  You can never have enough video card.  To offset that additional cost, don't buy Norton.  There are FREE programs that will do the same job better, such as, IOBIT 360.  This is what I use.  Oh, maybe one more upgrade.  I would go with the Phenom ll 810 or 925.  This will save an upgrade later and probably some money.

 

If it were me, I would stay with HP.  This forum is one of the biggest assets of owning a HP computer.  Acer (can I say that  :smileywink:smileyhappy: ) is an okay computer, but I don't believe that they compare to HP.  I have three family members who bought HP computers, in the past year, at my suggestion.  They are all extremely pleased with them.  They all came with Vista.  You would be a step ahead of them with Win7.  At least, so far, it seems to be leaps ahead.

 

Let us know if you have further questions. 

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