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HP Slimline GPU Help?

Hi, 

 

Would a 1GB Radeon 5450 work on a Slimline s3321p with a 160w power supply? I've heard that a 5450 is the best graphics card to upgrade a slimline with a 160w psu without upgrading the power supply.

 

All the specs of my computer are still the same excpet I upgraded the RAM to 4GB DDR2 PC2-6400.

 

Here are the specs to my computer: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documentSubCategory?tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&...

 

My problem is that the PSU is only 160 watts, which is very limited.

 

I'm looking at this one. Would it work?

 

If not the 1GB version, would the 512MB version work (This one)? Although would memory really play a big part in power consumption, anyway? According to Game Debate, the 1GB version only consumes ~19 watts at full load.

 

Thanks, kudos to the person with the best answer.

 

 

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Re: HP Slimline GPU Help?

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Hi:

 

My advice would be to use this handy power supply calculator and it will report what wattage P/S you need based on the hardware installed in your PC.

 

http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/index.jsp

 

I think you might squeak by with one of these video cards...

 

With fan:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125436

 

Fanless:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125402

 

Read the reviews. Some folks are running the card on 250W P/S's.

 

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Re: HP Slimline GPU Help?

Well, I checked it out on the link you gave me, here are my results (with no graphics card)

I guessed on the fan, the specs didnt say.

281 watts? How would that run on a 160w power supply?

And the suggestion you gave me, would it run with these requirements for a game I would like to play?

Graphics Card:

nVidia 7800 or better*

ATI Radeon HD 2×00 or better*

Intel Series 4 integrated graphics or better* 

It's SimCity. The 5450 can run SimCity on low. Would the card you reccomended run it?

Thanks so much for your help!

 

System Type:   2 physical CPUs  

Motherboard:   Regular - Desktop  

CPU Socket:   Socket AM2   CPU:   AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2600 MHz AM2 Windsor  

CPU Utilization (TDP):   85% TDP          

RAM:   2 Sticks DDR2 SDRAM          

IDE HDD 7200 rpm:   1 HDD          

DVD-RW/DVD+RW Drive:   1 Drive          

Fans       Regular:   1 Fan 92mm;                       

System Load:   90 %          

Recommended PSU Wattage: 281 Watts

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Re: HP Slimline GPU Help?

Hi:

 

Since I don't play video games, I could not say but the GeForce 210 is a newer card than the NVidia 7800.

 

I just input only the video cards in the calculator and they both came up needing a 96 watt power supply.

 

So, I guess it wouldn't make any difference which card you got.

 

I think under the circumstances, the P/S in your PC may not handle the draw of either card.

 

Just plugging in some basic numbers and guessing on the fans too, I came up with a P/S requirement of 208 Watts.

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Re: HP Slimline GPU Help?

Ok, after a little research on Game Debate, it seems that the 210 is not able to run SimCity. However, the Radeon 5450 does. And the 5450 does consume less power than the 210 (19 watts).

 

So my question is, would the 5450 run on a 160w psu?

 

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Re: HP Slimline GPU Help?

The only way you are going to find out is to install it and see what happens.

 

I don't have any reports of yes or no by doing any searches.

 

I can tell you that since you intend to play games with the card and not just surf the web or read e-mails, you are going to put quite a strain on the P/S.

 

I found this benchmarking comparison, and I honestly don't think a 160 W P/S is going to cut when the card is under load.

 

The HD 5450 512 MB card is all the way at the bottom.

 

This would be somewhat encouraging (if your PC had a 220 W P/S) like some of the slimlines do.

 

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1202/11/

 

You will not be leaving yourself any wiggle room.

 

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Looking at the link you gave me, the system they tested it on is very different from mine.

 

The processor consumes 130w, while mine consumes 65w~.

 

 And more http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1202/3/

 

 

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Re: HP Slimline GPU Help?

I can't tell you that the card is guaranteed to not blow out your P/S when under load--especially when the manufacturer is stating the minimum power supply recommendation is 400W.

 

I will say that 400W is probably overstated because video card manufacturers aren't going to put low P/S requirements and have folks blowing out their power supplies and sue the video card manufacturers, so they build in a fudge factor to cover folks that have super loaded PC's.

 

Will it work?

 

Yes.  If you install the card, the PC will boot up and run.

 

Will you have power supply issues? 

 

Maybe.  It depends on how long you play games at a time.

 

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