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h8-1070uk upgrading to GTX 750 Ti

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Hi,

 

I believe the GTX 750 Ti is well within the PSU requirements I have but I am having issues.

 

The PC will NOT go past POST,

 

I install the card and get the POST info up, so I have video output. But I can not get by POST. after about 30-40 sec I get a single beep. Then a further 30-40 sec another single beep. After 30 sec again I get 3 or 4 beeps and the video output goes off...

 

I have updated the latest BIOS AMI 7.12 with the new card installed I can not access the BIOS settings either....

 

Can some one help?

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Re: h8-1070uk upgrading to GTX 750 Ti

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Hi,

 

Some of the NVIDIA 750TI models require auxillary power from the PCI-E 6 pin power connector. Check to make sure that you have connected the PCI-E 6 pin power connector if the card is provisioned for auxillary power.

 

Remove the new video card and either use the old card or the integrated graphics to boot up your PC. If your PC boots up then reboot and depress F2 to run diagnostics.  If your PC passes the diagnostics then it's likely that the video bios in the new video card is not compatible with your PC.  Contact the video card manufacturer for a remedy.

 

 

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Re: h8-1070uk upgrading to GTX 750 Ti

The card does not have an extra PCI power connector.

I believe it's the motherboard, if you search around lots of people have an issue upgrading their graphics card, the only solution is to replace the mobo, which is very poor.

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Re: h8-1070uk upgrading to GTX 750 Ti

Hi,

 

It's not a motherboard problem per se but a marketing decision by the video card manufacturer to ship a video card that does not work with a legacy BIOS. EVGA had shipped the GTX 660 with a legacy compatible video BIOS to avoid such issues. Then if you wanted to run with UEFI you had to request a patch.

 

HP started providing UEFI BIOS support for newly released PCs in mid-October 2012. Your PC was released in June 2011 which is well beyond reason to see HP release a UEFI BIOS update.

 

Contact the video card manfucturer for a remedy.

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Re: h8-1070uk upgrading to GTX 750 Ti

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Hi,

 

According to the EVGA forums all 700 series cards support UEFI http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2129303

 

I have contacted them for further assistance.

 

My research has came up with many people having issues with HP PCs and upgrading them to 700 series cards from different manufacturers.

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Re: h8-1070uk upgrading to GTX 750 Ti

OK I think there is a slight confusion on my part. The 700 series only suppoer UEFI BIOS out the box, there is not BIOS downgrade to suport legacy BIOS.

 

So basically HP provide a PC that only lasts 3 years...that can not be update... I'm really annoyed this will be the last ever pre-built system.

 

Note to all, forget off the shelf products if you want them to be upgradable....

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Re: h8-1070uk upgrading to GTX 750 Ti

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Hi PabsThe Geek,

 

You might say the same about some video card manufacturers.  If you look closely at EVGA's product web site, can you find information indicating that the 7xx video cards support UEFI and are also compatible with non-UEFI BIOS? Hence, there is a documentation issue. Too bad you had to find out for yourself.

 

Try the Sapphire video products.  Sapphire has a number of video cards that are designated UEFI.

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Re: h8-1070uk upgrading to GTX 750 Ti

I'm having the same issue when trying to instal a gtx 730.  PC boots to hp splash screen and freezes.

 

HP support is worthless.  It is worse than a bad joke.  One agent told me... "Your board comes with onboard video installed, we do not support add in cards. " My reply was... My board come with a PCI-E 16x 2.0 socket, do you support THAT?  His reply was "Your board comes with onboard video installed, we do not support add in cards. "

 

The ONLY reason I purchased this HP machine was because it has a PCI-E socket.   With an i5 3.0 gig quad core processor and 8 gigs of 13333 DDR3 ram, the system is well in range of the games I play, except for the video. 

 

First thing I did was replace the 300w power supply with a 600w power supply. (old psu didnt have the required 6 pin connector to make the gpu card work)  My GTS 450 worked great, but now with upgrades to the game content and files, I need something more powerful. 

 

Both HP support and Nvidia support told me to update the system bios.  Now since this bios update is 3 years old, it may not even work.  HP does NOT support products that it has sold.  They have the attitude.. "We already have your money... so F OFF"

 

I have some really old computers that i sometimes use, as in over 10 years old, but if i go to get a bios update, you can be sure asus, and acer and ambibios have new files.  THEY support what they have sold.  

 

So apparently, what I am looking at now, to do a simple video card upgrade is:

 

Purchase a new case (since the HP case port hole are slightly off from industry standard)  (apparently they want you to replace the motherboard with theirs, but not upgrade it)

 

Next I have to purchase a new ATX motherboard with socket 1255 and RAM support

then

Purchase the new video card (I'll probably go with a 970) 

 

Simply put, to do a simple task (easily done in every other PC (excluding HP and DELL) I essentially have to rebuild the entire PC and salvage the processor , ram, optical and hard drives. 

 

Would I ever buy another HP computer?  Not a bloody chance.  Would I make a recommendation about HP computers?  YES... I would recommend leaving the junk sitting where it is and going with Acer or another brand.

 

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Re: h8-1070uk upgrading to GTX 750 Ti

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SO you are basically saying HP does not expect their product to exceed a 3 year life expectancy?   Why not just ship them with a cardboard case and label them as DISPOSABLE PC.  

 

if HP wants to continue selling products to todays wise consumer, they had better RETHINK their position regarding what is within reason. 

 

Furthermore:  It IS HPs responsibility to provide whatever support they need to do to ensure their product works as promised.  

 

THIS is DIRECTLY from the HP support web page for the HP P7-1205 Desktop PC

 

"

Video graphics
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD Integrated graphics (DX10.1)
*Integrated video is not available if a graphics card is installed.
  • Supports PCI Express x16 graphics cards
  • DVI and VGA ports (both ports can be used at the same time)"

Show me where it is that it states "supports only some PCI Express x16 graphics cards but we will not tell you which ones they are"

 

SO this is telling me that YOU are either blatently lying to HP customers, or HP is lying to them, but in this case, I suspect both.

 

Tell me one more thing.  How much money would it cost HP to provide the required patches, to keep customers happy and loyal?  How much is it costing them when customers like myself and the guy that posted previously vowed to never purchace another HP product and how many customers are reading this thinking the same thing, but not bothering to post  a reply?   I bet it is alot!

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Re: h8-1070uk upgrading to GTX 750 Ti

so.. "per se"

Exactly which Nvidia and Radion cards do work in a P7-1205. (disregard power supply restriction, we pretty much expect to have to upgrade that anyway)

 

Will Nvida 600 series (600-690) work?  Nvidia 500 series? 

 

From what I am looking at the GTX 690 out performs the GTX 750 ti by miles! 

 

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-690/performance

 

as do the gtx 660- gtx 680 (all of which are slightly better performers than the 750 ti.

 

Guys, I would highly suggest making a book mark of that link to compare cards.  For example a GTX 450 out performs an Nvidia 630!

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