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11-08-2009 09:06 PM
I'm officially checking out of this thread. I returned my 9180t for a full refund. I realize the frustration is high here ... but at least I can say that HP made it easy to return the box and get my money back.
Thanks for checking out and info! Have updated your Jaydn(2) entry! Good Luck!
11-08-2009 09:31 PM
I have also had this same issue.
My e9180T seemed to fix itself. I had updated to 5.22 bios, also put a new usb mouse on and also updated the graphics driver.
I am still running Vista Professional. My WIN 7 upgrade is on the way.
I have the 1 GB Nivdia GeForce GTS 250 video card.
I changed my mouse back but it worked fine - no freezes or BSOD errors for almost three weeks now. I was getting freeze ups 2-3 times a week previously.
So for me it seems as if the 5.22 bios or the video card driver update may have fixed the issue?? or is this MoBo issue intermittent on some machines???
I keep following this forum to see if there are any updates from HP or someone.
I work in the electronics industry. Intermitent issues can be very difficult to find and determine the root cause. I see lots of dicussion of BAD Resistors. What does this really mean - is it poor manufacturing in assembling the resistors to the MoBo, or is it poor solderability of the component itself, or is it an electrical failure of the component.
A number of years ago we had an issue with surface mount thin film resistor values changing during our assembly process. They seemed to continue to change over time possibly due to heat. The manuafcture actually flew in from Japan to see our problem first hand. They finally tracked down the root cause and admitted to a problem with parts coming out of one particular production plant. What I am trying to say here is if this is truely an issue on the MoBo it may or may not be the the MoBo manufacture's issue. It may go back anothyer layer yet to the manufacture of the component itself. It was a batch related issue. If we received parts from the good plant there was no issue. When we received parts from the bad plant the issue reared it's ugly head. These are difficult to determine once parts are assembled to circuit boards becuase the lot numbers and manufracturing info is located on the reels (packaging) the parts come in. The parts are two small to put info on them. We had to track lot by lot prior to assembly to finally build a picture.
I will keep watching this forum for some final resolution.
CURRLY55: Thanks for the update. I'll book you as another BIOS "success" to flame the "mobo is the problem" crowd, but it could be the graphics driver!
The parts-process by site list was orinially trying to track the origin of the units to see if there was a parts or process problem at any one HP site. We found the freezers were coming from China, Mexico and Czechoslovakia, so we couldn't pin it down to anywhere.
However, it does appear that most of the machines in the thread are CTOs from HP. So there could be a parts or process issue in or of that.
From the reports only 5-10 have indicated they were bought from Costco or Frys (I tried to keep track of those). If there are off-the-shelf buyers who disagree, could they post please.
11-08-2009 10:14 PM
11-08-2009 10:22 PM
11-08-2009 10:30 PM
I bought mine from frys in July... Took it back a week later and got a replacement thinking I just got a bad one with bsod and random freezes. I have mine completly updated (5.22 bios, all current drivers) and it still gets random freezes and bsod. The first time I sent it in for repair, all the service center did was reload the 5.22 bios saying it was currupt. I got it back about 2 weeks ago and within 2 hours bsod and freezes continued. It is now back on the way back to Hp for the second attempted fix... How many of these "fixes" do I have to go through before they will replace my machine or give me my money back?
Pls check your PM
11-08-2009 11:26 PM
Here is the weekly update on unit status:
Updated 'parts, process by site' and unit status table. posted 11/8
32 machines have moved into the "no longer freezer" category since 9/27. Net of 3 more BIOS 5.22 upgrades report freezing stopped. Performance loss reports declining (still would be interesting to see benchmarks set out clearly)
First Buy Not Freezing Machines (13) was 11/1 (11) was 10/25 (11) was 10/18 (9) was 9/27 (6)
Subsequent Not Freezing Machines (20) was 11/1 (12) was 10/25 (11) was 10/18 (12) was 9/27 (7)
Not freezing after BIOS 5.22 (19) was 11/1 (16) was 10/25 (14) was 10/18 (10) was 9/27 (0) new category
Status to be resolved (17) was 11/1 (25) was 10/25 (15) was 10/18 (15) was 9/27 (6)
96xx (15) was 11/1 (15) was 10/25 (12) was 10/18 (9) was 9/27 (4)
9180 (40) was 11/1 (45) was 10/25 (44) was 10/18 (38) was 9/27 (29)
9150 (25) was 11/1 (24) was 10/25 (26) was 10/18 (24) was 9/27 (19)
total (149) was 11/1 (148) was 10/25 (133) was 10/18 (117) was 9/27 (71)
First Buy Not Freezing Machines
Burd m9600t ??? ???? not had problems since purchased in April, runs for weeks w/o shut down, sleep works
tintin_snowy e9180t ??? ???? no problems for 3 weeks, cold start each morning 10/11
leadladie(1),(2), e9180t (2 good out of an order of 5)
Stanggraff ??? ??? ???? loaded updates in date order, claims stabilized machine, not clear it was a classic freezer
JudgeLeo e9150t ??? Mexico ATI Bios 5.21,still to load from internet
ChrisAttebery e9150t ??? ???? (first unit 9/18, running for a week w/o problems, wishes us luck
bobcat79568 9180t i7 920 Mexico (shipped 9/9, 9/18 ran 12 hours, screen saver off, sleep off, no problems, upgrade to 5.22, sleep on now, no problems.
KRUZ8ER e9150t i7 950 ???? GTS250, BIOS 5.22 upgraded to win7, no problems with off overnight starts
TalNY e9180t i7 920 ???? ordered 10/15 assured problem had to do with system temperature and had been addressed 10/20 , running Ok w/o freezes BIOS 5.22, 5 days 10/25, ok 10/29
BILL_ e9150t ??? ???? (Costco) running for two weeks problem free 11/03, could be post 9/15 bld
Sandar 2020 made a 91xx type machine, i7 920 from parts and a Pegatron Truckee mobo, found Nvidia card caused conflicts, changed to ATI HD, no problems since, suspects Nvidia source of problems (not mobo)
Subsequent Not Freezing Machines
Cee-Cee(2) e9150t(2) i7 920 Mexico (stable> 8/28/09 - allright! Cee-Cee,founder ofour thread triumphs!
Lisa489(3) e9150t i7 950 ????
PCleery(2) e9150t i7 950 Mexico (freeze free in High and Power Saver power settings, 91 days now, v5.22, upgraded win7 at11/03,
phyridean(2) e9150t i7 920 ???? (running Windows 7 for two weeks, 1.04 mobo 1.03 rev 13 on to 5.22
lockupnew e9150t(2) i7 920 Mexico (box opened 9/18, has run1 week hours w/o problems, (likely good)
musubi e9150t i7 920 Indiana Mobo (same chipset?? Mexico) would they remount the processor chip? (9/23 reports trouble free for two weeks, updated BIOS to 5.18, reinstalled driver for GT220 via recover manager (that would be the original driver
Lindia e9180f i7 920 China (warm reboot works, but other issues, sleep settings in power manage fixed it (was sent back for repair 9/21 corrected tattoo, replaced CPU, replaced mobo but still Truckee v1.04, no problems as of 10/30 (36 days) <<<<
BillTX e9180t i7 920 Mexico (froze 2-3 times in first 4 days (9/4) , then stopped, had upgraded to SP2, upgraded to BIOS 5.22, can't see any change in performance, rock solid 2 months at11/07, shuts down each night, cold starts fine, in place install of win7, running fine, slightly longer start than Vista.
mlipst e9150t i7 920 ???? v1.04 mobo,was freezer, no longer froze after doing System Recovery (from D: partition) prior to BIOS 5.22, 5.22 no problems, shuts down at night, upgraded to win7 w/o problems, 1 mo w/o issues 10/30
Banach e9150t ??? ??? GT220, v1.03 ( no problems except sound for a month 10/3
BTscarlett (4*) e9110t 2Quad Q8400 ????? (just in from HP setting up, different Core 9/28
Bugger ??? ???? "wrap electrical tape around cooling ribs of Northbridge, see p3""unit stable as a rock"
leadladie(9),(10) bld 10/18, BIOS 5.22 of which (9) & (10) are OK,
Cameron_Snyder e9180f freezer since 9/27 Bios 5.22, did not fix, but upgraded eSATA and RAID Controller to latest o/a 11/03 good so far details p 251
madstopfern e9180f i7 920? Mexico (not clear that this one has the cold start freeze up issue, locks after sleep, 9/18 no locks once set to high performance, 10/15 BIOS 5.22 froze aft cold start, got repaired new mobo (v1.04?) 11/03, after one slow start up has stopped freezing.11/06 cold booted 3 times no freezing 11/07 ) (attribute to mobo)
len613 e9180t ??? ???? bld o/a 10/1, share of freezes ,(not clear classic freezer), techsupport disabled a sleep mode, no problems for 3 days, 11/07
SolFried e9180t ??? ???? v1.04, BIOS 5.22 no longer froze @16 hrs 10/15, froze with static noise 10/18, 1 BSOD per day MCE BSOD (10/27 reported new remedy from HP, clear CMOS, p 228, evaluating 10/27, BSODs two days later), was tracking BSODs when unit rebooted after blue screen, since then ( 1 week) BSOD free.
Subsequent Not Freezing Machines (replaced mobo with non Truckee board)
damndonzi m9600t i7 920 Mexico v1.03 BIOS 5.22 still freezing 10/15, replaced mobo with EVGA x58 Micro = fixed freezing 10/26 p224 (comments on heat sink on Voltage Regulator
Nounours e9150t i7 920 Mexico (30 warm boot starts without problems), rebult with nonHP mobo and more 11/04 seems to be OK
11-08-2009 11:29 PM
Not freezing after BIOS 5.22 Update
DavidKim m9600t i7 920 Mexico V1.03 (has stable machine, one or two freezes in 2 mo when starting <20C), having lots more freezes (ambient low 50s (degF) is that the ambient of the unit??? 10/3, BIOS 5.22 no longer freezes, no perf loss.
edtmark e9180f ???? ???? (repaired twice as of 9/18, workarounds work, BIOS 5.22 no freezes yet 10/14
jgadbaw e9150t ??? ???? v1.04, BIOS 5.22 no longer freezes @48 hrs 10/15
PJS69(2) e9180t i7 950 ????? (this is a i7 950, BIOS 5.21 not freezing @10/16
Nicoalas(2) e9180f i7 920? ???? BIOS 5.22 not freezing, under Vista and Linux, 24 hrs @10/16
GeoGus e9180f ??? ???? v1.03 BIOS 5.22 froze after 7 hrs, but may be Logitech driver issue, flawless Non Freezer 10/20,10/23,10/27
markmmad e9150t i7 950 ???? (this is a 950) v1.04 GT220 upgraded power supply, still freezer, BIOS 5.21 not freezing aft 5 cold boots @10/17
kattak e9150t ??? ???? sent for repair, freezes post repair 10/16, BIOS 5.22 not freezing, but very noisy(fan?) and slow
wordsuf e9150t ??? ???? v1.0?, Gcard???, BIOS 5.22 not freezing but only 1 day 10/18
Shen71 e9180t i7 920 ATI started freezing after 1 mo, BIOS 5.22 not freezing 10/19, perf loss noted, sentfor repair, received back with new mobo no issues
Jokke m9680be i7 920 Czech (no freezes if started cold over 22C), BIOS 5.22 not freezing for 5 days, no perf loss 10/20
ThuperSD e9180t ??? ???? (may not be a classic freezer , every 2 days??) (OT) BIOS 5.22 not freezing, sleep problems
Larry10k e9150t i7 ??? ??? ATI, BIOS 5.22 not freezing, 3 days 10/24
TedDog e9150t ??? ???? classic freezer since July, BIOS 5.22 not freezing, 10 days @10/25
cgm e9150t ??? ???? freezing and BSOD sent for repair, 2 new mobos, returning 10/12, up again 10/24 has BIOS 5.22 doesn't freeze but has the pre-repair USB problem and new BSODs. (looks like 5.22 fixed freezing, so I'll book it here for now, but NOTE problems, 10/30 looks like is a nonfreezer now but other repairs.
jonathonphx1 e9180t ??? ???? bld 74ish had lots of freezes, upgraded to 5.22 changed from Logitech Mouse to HP, greatly improved freeze wise (not clear if mouse or BIOS),.cold starts everyday, upgraded to win7, evaluating 10/28
TazL ???? ??? ???? had freezing problems, upgraded to BIOS 5.22 and win7 o/a 10/30, freeze free 3 days
JBHUCSD e9180t i7 975 ???? v1.04 bld o/a 9/09 heavy video editing application, classic freeze and USB related unpredictable freezes, updated to BIOS 5.22 and Nvidia Driver (HP) o/a 10/30, has had weekend free of freezes (5.22 for classic and Nvidia for unpredictable, sounds like on 11/2. Advises upgrading to 5.22 no degradation in performance observed (heavy video p.248).
CURRLY55 e9180t ??? ???? locks up about once per week, may not be a freezer, increased to 3 per week, upgraded to BIOS 5.22, also new USB mouse, and updated graphics driver, no freezes or hangs for three weeks 11/08
Status to be resolved
acrovista e9180t (timing BSOD problems after increasing RAM, ran for 3 week always on prior, freezer? TBD
toddxrti e9150t ??? ???? (unit shuts down (totally) in media player, this doesn't sound like freezing, does windows think it shutdown properly??
Krasher (1) e9150z AMD chip, (2) e9180t and (3 e9180t in process) (screen went blank - doesn't sound like a classic freezer - was the monitor the same for (1) and (2)
Jackshoot e9180t ??? ???? (not clear this is a freezer - sounds like USB issue (OT)
illini29 e9180t ??? ???? (OT)
Zonacats20 e9180t ??? ???? presume you have a freezer (post on p175 about 5.22 and Win7 will fix "problems")
Arbitard1171 e9180f i7 920 ???? [Bestbuy] v1.03 (repaired once, cold boot works, sleep issues, BIOS 5.22 seems slower, reflashed 5.13, bricked it 10/26, returned 11/3 with new mobo, v1.04
zaq123(2) e9180t ??? ???? unit coming o/a10/7
leadladie(11) bld 10/18, BIOS 5.22 is a freezer
fiveo1993(2) e9180f i7 920 ???? GTS250 (crashing right out of box, - not clear this one is a freezer, yet unit(1) meltdown
goldeye(2) e9150t??? ??? (unit 1 had mangled case, not clear if a freezer, rebooting itself
Roger4 e9280t i7 975 ???? shipping 10/22
bennuss(2?) ??? ???? bld 10/6 shuts down once an hour, being replaced
GaryJ51(5) >note> e9280t<< i7 950 v1.04 A07,BIOS 5.21 (5th unit being shipped)
11-08-2009 11:31 PM
BrettD 96xx ??? ??? v1.03, BIOS 5.22 still freezing 10/15, says BSOD 10/20 aft 27 hrs, not necess a freeze,10/21 also
Hobbscpapc ??? ??? ???? BIOS 5.22 still freezing 10/16 (sending for repair 10/19
The1stHunter ??? ??? ???? v??? GTS 250 BIOS 5.22 freeze ups every 1-2 days, do work arounds work?
fourpatch ??? ??? ???? sounds like a sleep problem, not a freeze, do workarounds work?
rexor ??? ???? freezes and BSODs, repetitive noise, disabled hyper threading, better (phyridean also disbaled hyperthreading)
averagejoe same as post 2343 ????
Texasjohnny(2) e???? ??? ???? [Frys] replaced(1),#2(2) repaired fixed corrupted BIOS 5.22, still freezing and BSODs (sent back for second repair o/a11/08)
osbornerk m9765uk ??? ???? (refund)
woodturner(2) m9675uk i7 920 Czech (not clear if warm boot works OK??
boston_bob e9650 ??? ???? (warm boot works, freezes using the 8.8 RAID Controller driver on a cold start,
mikeiugfkjhkkj m9600t i7 920 ????
Deneb m9600t i7 920 Mexico (random BSODs and freezes (does warm boot eliminate them??
RhondaB m9600t ???? v1.03, BIOS 5.22 still freezing 10/15, updated to win7, still freezing 10/30
steve_97060 m9600t ??? ???? two mobo replacements by tech house call, v1.04 still freezes
hp-buyer09 m9600t i7 920 Mexico (returned twice for raid 0 error, and freezes and BSOD's, third rework TBD was BIOS 5.22 not freezing, but getting BSODs (after sleep) and now back to freezing 10/26
PauHana m9600t i7920 ???? mid6/09 GTS250 ambient warm Freezer,BSODs and AutoReboots (cool!!) waiting for repair
11-08-2009 11:34 PM
Hpsad(1) e9180f ???? ????? (replaced)
MrHDTV(1) e9180t i7 920 Mexico (replaced, may not have been a freezer
MrHDTV(2) e9180t i7 920 Mexico (replaced) sounds like a freezer,
Jaydn(1) 9180t i7 975? ???? (replaced) was it a i7 975 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
GaryJ51(4) e9180t i7 950 v1.04 A07,BIOS 5.21, went to BIOS 5.22, rebooting kinda like freezing, reflashed 5.13, bricked it (or one of them) o/a 10/26- planning to rebuild with a Asus Rampage mobo 11/04 (went for a replace, see#5)
novelh(1) e9180f i7 920 ???? (replaced), novelh(2) e9180f i7 920 ???? (refund),
PJS69(1) e9180t i7 950 ????? (this is a i7 950, sounds like classic freeze, warm reboot works,(replaced)
GeeBeeR11 e9180t ??? ???? (returned)
TangentRW e9180t i7 920???? v1.03, GTS250 repaired once , major overhaul see p.96, still a freezer sent for repair again 10/2, came back with v1.04/13 mobo, updated BIOS to 5.22, more stable but not 100%. Unit to be replaced for other reasons.(with e9820t)
eots(3) e9180f i7 920 China (eots was banished from thread
Jaimito e9180f i7 920 China, , BIOS 5.22 still freezing 10/20, upgraded to win7 , still freezing 11/02
asbman e9180t i7 920 ????
asbman e9180t i7 920 ????
asbman e9180t i7 920 ???? (shutting off Aero went 9 hours w/o freeze, then froze)
asbman e9180t i7 920 ???? (this is correct, you currently have a total of 4 machines in use?
hakanson e9180t i7 920 Mexico (classic freezer, 5-10 min after cold boot, still has issues 10/15
OldManBrown e9180t i7 920 Mexico (runs fine after warm boot
robjrno e9180f i7 920 China (classic freezing, no BSODs
whk_usa e9180f i7 920 China (workaround works, freezes no BSOD's, 70-75degF
Deegar e9180f ??? ???? (if you have turned off sleep, it sounds like a freezer
rst35 e9180t i7 920 ??? (make sure it cannot sleep, freezing in sleep is a HP settings issue
anthone 9180t ??? ???? (bought at Fry's 9/18 - having BSODs not clear freezing
GilbertC e9180f ??? ???? (not clear this is a classic freezer, do workarounds stop freeze???)
rllilies(2) e9180 ??? ???? ( sounds freezerish what happened with number one
Doonyman e9180f ??? ???? (sending in for repair 9/27, sending for repair 10/16 v1.03, , BIOS 5.22 still freezing 10/16, back from repair 10/28, now v1.04 Bios 5.22, evaluating
95mustang(4) e9180t i7 975 Mexico (this a 975, I think, - BIOS 5.22 won't wake up, does it still freeze?, repaired new mobo v1.04, BIOS 5.22 (9150 id issue, 2 sticks found), has frozen again
ean33 e9180t ??? ???? (do the workarounds eliminate the freezing
Furlong e9180f ???? (sounds like classic freezer
rykodisc e9180t i7 950 ???? this is a 950, v1.04 BIOS 5.22 not freezing for 3 days @10/16, v1.03 BIOS 5.22 froze after 3 hrs 10/16, froze commanding sleep
Christoph1122 e9180t i7 950 ??? v1.04, BIOS 5.22 was OK, then froze first time 10/17(how long after boot?)
tintin e9180t ??? ??? recently (10/17) started freezing (BIOS 5.18, not clear warm boot prevents freeze
Arnie e9180t ??? ???? bld 8/8 warm boot works 10/11, MCE BSOD also freezes (has turned off sleep from beginning 8/8/09)