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chuckc3
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Windows 8.1 Takes a Long Time to Boot

I have had a problem which I solved myself that I want to post here for the benefit of others who may have the same problem.  I have an HP Envy Phoenix H9-1350 desktop system with 12GB or RAM, 2TB hard drive and a 16GB caching SSD drive.

 

After I upgraded to Windows 8.1, it was taking a little over 5 minutes for my system to boot and I went through everything I could think of to try to improve it without much success.  I then spent about an hour and a half on the phone with HP Tech Support and that wasn't much help.  The person I talked to simply disabled some of my applications from starting up and dropped the boot time to down around 3 minutes and, for that reason, he concluded that my problem was I have too many applications starting up.  That didn't seem to be a good answer to me...I was convinced my system was heavily I/O bound and the disk was working extremely hard doing something when it was trying to boot.

 

I did some further research on my own and made some progress on this...one thing I found was that the hibernation file and paging file were limiting the amount of defragmentation that could be done to the disk.  I temporarily turned off hibernation and paging and deleted those files and defragmented once again and found it made a big difference.  After I turned on hibernation and paging once again with the disc completely defragmented, the boot time dropped from 5 minutes down to 3 minutes.

 

However, the really big improvement came when I removed the 16GB caching SSD from the system and booted directly off the hard drive - the time to boot dropped from 3 minutes down to around 20 seconds!  I don't know why that should have such a big effect, but it did.  It's amazing that the hard drive actually performs so much better without the caching SSD.  I have now decided to get rid of the caching SSD altogether and replace the hard drive with a larger SSD.

 

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Paul_Tikkanen
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Re: Windows 8.1 Takes a Long Time to Boot

Hi:

 

I'm glad you were able to get your issue resolved.

 

You may want to take a look at this notebook article regarding how to set up ssd cacheing.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-pavilion-notebooks/676213-definitive-guide-clean-install-os-mssd-...

 

I'm not sure how the W8.1 upgrade works but it is possible that it messed up the settings.

 

Clearly it had some kind of adverse impact on the drive settings.

 

 

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chuckc3
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Re: Windows 8.1 Takes a Long Time to Boot

Thanks for your response.  I am beyond that point having totally dumped the 16GB SSD cache and just replacing it with a 500GB SSD "C" drive altogether...I think the costs of SSD's has come down to the point that it is more feasible to do that and there is less need for a caching SSD.

 

However, I think you're on the right track...I think there could very well have been something in Windows 8.1 that screwed up the caching.  I've seen a lot of other problems with Windows 8.1 so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case...I've got an ASUS laptop that won't upgrad to WIndows 8.1 because of driver incompatibilty issues.

 

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