01-02-2014 08:33 PM
Two months ago I talked my 84 year old mother into ditching her old PC (running XP) & purchasing a new desktop. After informing the HP Sales Rep of her needs he recommended (& we purchased) the HP ENVY 700xt Desktop, a 23" Monitor, & 3 year support. The system & components is as follows:
HP ENVY 700xt Desktop PC
- Windows 8.1 64
- 4th Generation Intel ® Core ™ i7-4770 quad-core processor [3.4GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
- Intel HD Graphics [DVI-D]
- 8GB DDR-3-1600MHz [2 DIMM]
- 1TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
- No Secondary HDD
- Microsoft Office Trial
- Security Software Trial
- SuperMulti DVD Burner
- 15-in-1 Multi-slot Media Card Reader, 4 USB Ports (Front/Top), Audio [Front 2USB2.0, Top 2USBB3.0]
- No TV Tuner Card
- Integrated Sound, Envy Audio, Beats Audio
- HP USB keyboard and optical mouse with volume control
- Wireless-N LAN card and Bluetooth ® (1x1)
- 300W Power Supply
HP W2371d 23-inch LEDBacklit LCD Monitor
HP 3y 3d Onsite Envy 2y DT HW Support
Over the last 2 months her excitement & eagerness to learn a new system has turned to agony. Since the system was delivered on Oct 30th she's spent hours upon hours reading & listening to tutorials trying to learn Win8.1 & when time allows her 2 sons (both engineers), 3 grandchildren, & myself (all using Windows 7) have all been trying to educate ourselves so we can help her. As it stands now everyone is beyond frustrated.
Different reps at HP Support have given her the following recommendations: Purchase a 90 day Subscription to Win8 Technology Training Course / Purchase a different monitor – they recommend the HP Pavilion 23tm 23-inch Diagonal Touch (& since it’s been over 21 days they will not take back the one they sold her 2 months ago) / Be more patient & learn the system.
I’ve come to the conclusion that expecting an 84 yr old woman who was proficient in XP to now learn Win8.1 is just way too much to presume -- the learning curve is just too steep. I’ve decided to put an end to this torture & install (have installed) Win7 Home Premium (system I have). I called PC Warehouse & for $100 they will install it. I have also spoken to 3 different reps at HP & all say this will not void the warranty or the 3 year Onsite Support she purchased.
Though I’ve been researching this for weeks I’ve been afraid to take the leap without being better informed as to what I’m getting her into (again!) I’ve been reading here & on other sites that Bios settings will need to be changed, special drivers needed, etc. She’s already spent $1,200 on the above system & components I figure spending $100 to have PC Warehouse do the install & deal with any problems is well worth it.
Is there anything in particular I should be asking? Anything I’m overlooking? I’d love to have this done within the next week so she can begin enjoying her new PC.
Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
01-02-2014 09:05 PM
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01-03-2014 04:43 AM
i am 83 and also hate that windows 8 that olnly serves to make money and get all info from you at MS and others headquarters. My silotion: an app for deakpage and thean it is just like before . forget all the other apps