02-17-2017 10:19 AM
I have seen gaming desktops by razor and origin where there are pipes going across the computer with a special coolant. Since omen X doesn't have these, does it mean the cooling is worse. Please could you tell me how much difference there would be with a gtx 1080 and kaby lake processor and wether it would be a valuable upgrade to switch to razor or origins largely liquid cooled desktops?
PS. I know this is a HP forum, but please be as unbiased and objective as possible and give me your opinion and facts without being biased towards a particular company
02-18-2017 09:21 AM - edited 02-18-2017 09:23 AM
First, please read this thread on maybe heat issues.
What system to buy is subjective. HP Omen does not offer a lot of BIOS tweaking for overclock and such.
So if you like to overclock and have good control over how system runs like fan control and memory/CPU settings maybe Omen is not a good fit for you.
Do other systems give this control? You would have to check this out.
If you just want to game with fast PC then Omen is good choice.
02-18-2017 06:26 PM
You can opt for liquid cooled AIO loops on the omen range, however as stated before there are limiting factors on the very basic BIOS that the omen has for overclocking and cooling control. HP also do no support overclocking and it will void your warranty. I believe Razer has a very similar stance when it comes to overclocking.
A few things you should note with the HP Omen, airflow is terrible in the main chamber, they have different chambers for the power supply and hard drives so that you do not get the heat from them in the main chamber chasis, however those components are not nearly as hot as the graphics cards, CPU or MB. There is only one intake fan on the front of the chasis and if you select the watercooling option, they use the radiator fans as a exhaust for the hot air that build up in the case, this really reduces the effectiveness of the radiator. Not only that but the fans inside the case are not very good. Replacing the radiator fan with a high static pressure fan and switching it to pull cold air from the outside of the case rather than venting hot air is almost a must.
A GTX1080 that they provide will be a reference cooler design which get quite hot under load. 82c is the most common temp you will find these reference cards running at. You can increase the fan speed of the cards using a program like PrecisionOC from EVGA at the cost of noise. but bear in mind that all that heat still lingers in the case and gets vented through the radiator unless you change the airflow to have the cards venting most of the heat.
From my experience of having a unit with a 6700K watercooled processor and 2x GTX 1080s in the 900-071a unit, you will have a hot computer on your hand. Expect CPU temps of 80c under load and GPU temps of 82-84 under load.
That being said everything runs stable and you should not get thermal throttling under stock speeds.
Plus if you are just wanting a fast machine to play games and arent planning on overclocking then if the heat causes any damages it will all be covered under HP's warranty.
Honest opinion is if you are buying razor products, be prepared to be calling support alot. The only thing they make well is keyboards, I have numerous friends who have bought laptops from them and they have all failed multiple times.