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zeburr
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Registered: ‎02-04-2012
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Envy 17 SSD compatibility

I'm trying to install/upgrade a 60gb Corsair SSD.  When I put in the available secondary hdd slot it shows up fine in windows and I'm able format and mirror image the drive. But when I take out the original 1tb HDD and put the SSD in the primary slot the machine won't boot. I even try to run the recovery dvd's to put a fresh install and it doesn't recognize the SSD.  Is there a list of compatible drives and/or more options in the BIOS? I'm very frustrated with how limited the BIOS is.

 

Also where's the RAM in case I want to upgrade that as well?

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WaseemW
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Re: Envy 17 SSD compatibility

Hi,

I presume product is envy 17-1000 - 17-1099 series.

here is the list of supported and tested configurations.

 

    • Single HDD configurations:
      • 160GB SSD
      • 320GB (7200) 9.5mm
      • 500GB (7200) 9.5mm
      • 640GB (5400) 9.5mm
      • 640GB (7200) 9.5mm
      • 750GB (5200) 12.5mm
      • 1TB (5200) 12.5mm
    • Dual HDD configurations:
      • 160GB SSD + 500GB (7200) 9.5mm
      • 160GB SSD + 640GB (5400) 9.5mm
      • 160GB SSD + 640GB (7200) 9.5mm
      • 640GB: 320GB (7200) 9.5mm x 2
      • 1000GB: 500GB (7200) 9.5mm x 2
      • 1280GB: 640GB HDD x 2 (5400)
      • 1280GB: 640GB HDD x 2 (7200)
      • 1.5TB: 750GB (5200) 12.5mm x 2
      • 2TB: 1TB (5200) 12.5mm x 2

also, this series Supports up to 8GB max system (DDR3-1333Mhz dual channel support) memory:

    • 4096MB (2048MB x 2)
    • 4096MB (4096MB x 1)
    • 6144MB (2048MB x 1 + 4096MB x 1)
    • 8192MB (4096MB x 2)

hope it helps.

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WW
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zeburr
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Re: Envy 17 SSD compatibility

It's the newer Envy late 2011 - LW900AV  17t-3000

 

I thought it supported 16gb of ram.  Also is the 160gb SSD sata 3?

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WaseemW
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Re: Envy 17 SSD compatibility

Hi,

Thanks for the product info. here is the info you wanted to look for:

 

I see the SSD is always secondry.

 

Supports the following hard drives:

 

Supports the following hard drive/mSATA drive combination configurations:

● 1-TB, 5400-rpm, 12.7-mm hard drive × 2 + 128-GB mSATA drive

● 750-GB, 7200-rpm, 9.5-mm hard drive × 1 + 80-GB mSATA drive

 

Supports the following dual hard drive/solid-state drive combination configurations:

● 1-TB, 5400-rpm, 12.7-mm hard drive × 2 + 300-GB solid-state drive

● 1-TB, 5400-rpm, 12.7-mm hard drive × 2 + 160-GB solid-state drive

● 750-GB, 7200-rpm, 9.5-mm hard drive × 2 + 300-GB solid-state drive

● 750-GB, 7200-rpm, 9.5-mm hard drive × 2 + 160-GB solid-state drive

● 500-GB, 7200-rpm, 9.5-mm hard drive × 2 + 300-GB solid-state drive

● 500-GB, 7200-rpm, 9.5-mm hard drive × 2 + 160-GB solid-state drive

 

Supports the following single hard drive/solid-state drive combination configurations:

● 1-TB, 5400-rpm, 12.7-mm hard drive × 1 + 300-GB solid-state drive

● 750-GB, 7200-rpm, 9.5-mm hard drive × 1+ 300-GB solid-state drive

● 500-GB, 7200-rpm, 9.5-mm hard drive × 1 + 300-GB solid-state drive

● 320-GB, 7200-rpm, 9.5-mm hard drive × 1 + 300-GB solid-state drive

 

DDR3-1333-MHz and DDR3-1600-MHz dual channel support

Supports the following configurations:

● 16384-MB total system memory (8192 × 2 @ 1333-MHz)

● 12288-MB total system memory (8192 + 4096 @ 1333-MHz)

● 8192-MB total system memory (8192×1 @ 1333-MHz, 4096×2 @ 1600-MHz, 4096×2

@ 1333-MHz)

● 6144-MB total system memory (4096 + 2048 @ 1600-MHz, 4096 + 2048 @ 1333-MHz)

● 4096-MB total system memory (4096×1 @ 1333-MHz, 2048×2 @ 1333-MHz)

 

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zeburr
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Re: Envy 17 SSD compatibility

Thanks Warsi,

But why would the SSD always be secondary? How would I go about putting the operating system on the SSD?

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DanJoe
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Sorry but Iaccording to HP chat support this info is not correct. You cannot use 2* 750GB HDDs along with a 160GB or 300GB SSD. The manual has this info too, but it is wrong. This is according to HP instant chat support. Also, the  manual makes it look like you cannot use mSATA with dual drives, I doubt this is correct, but instant chat support were not able to provide a definitive answer. They said try it and see. WTH ?!?!??!? Also thaey saidyou cannot set up the laptop to boot from an mSATA. I'm sorry, but, Huh? Isn't that what it's for? Or am I way off base?

 

Ref pages 2/3 of  the manual http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03178060.pdf

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WaseemW
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Re: Envy 17 SSD compatibility

Hi,

I think only option you have to install OS on mSata is by removeing all other fixed drivers and re-install OS.

because you may have factory image or recovery media, if you try to re-install OS, it gets installed on largest HDD which is connected to 1st SATA connector.

 

if you have 2 drives(HDD or SSD) and 1 mSata, remmove the SSD/HDDs and install OS using recovery media.

also, if the factory image needs more space than your mSATA, you may see error/failure in install.

 

Incase of retail version OS installation, you may try without removing the drives as it lets you choose the destination partition.

 

hope it helps.

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bpace77
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Re: Envy 17 SSD compatibility

[ Edited ]

Would their be any hope for a Bios update correcting this ridiculous restriction?  I can see why it can only allow a 160GB SSD.

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DanJoe
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Re: Envy 17 SSD compatibility

Interesting over at http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/633055-hp-envy-17-17-3d-3xxx-series-owners-lounge-65.htm...

 

Originally Posted by AU4U View Post
Anyone have some info on the 80 GB SSD mSATA available in the Envy 17-3000 3D
LINK:HP ENVY 17-3000 3D Edition Notebook PC series specifications

Some of the questions iI have are:
1) 80 GB SSD mSATA, what brand?
2) Is the OS on the the mSATA?
3) Is the mSata CARD sata II or III?
4) Is the mSATA SLOT sata II or III?
5) Installing an 2.5'" SSD to HDD bay 1, do I need sata II or III?
6) If I have the mSATA and a 2.5" SSD, booting from HDD bay 1(SSD), the mSATA isn't any real use to me, is it? All 2.5" SSD's are faster than an any mSATA's. The only real use for the mSATA would be for a duel boot setup (UBUNTU/XP). Am I correct with this???

Finall Question for now,,,,,,,,,
Has HP screwed up the series numbers on the Envy 17-3000 3D?
From the Envy 17-3090nr 3D page, envy 17-3090nr 3D it takes me to the envy 17-3000 3D page????
Whats wrong here??

Don't know that I can directly address your questions here, but this was my experience:

I got my Envy 17 with just the 750GB Hybrid drive. I also purchased a 128GB mSATA card and a 256GB SATA III SSD. The plan (and this is working) is to boot from the mSATA, run "current" VMs and apps from the SSD, and use the 750GB Hybrid for unused VMs and less used crap (media and more media).

I originally tried to remove the shipped drive and do the restore to the mSATA - no go. It consistently failed to restore at the last step and the restore error boxes no longer have the red X to close and continue as they did in the past. I could have done a clean install but since HP doesn't provide all of the software in an easily accessible format, I really wanted the HP image. So, the next try was to clone the Hybrid drive to the mSATA. To do this I resized the partitions down to where I wanted them on the Hybrid drive, then cloned them to the mSATA. This is where a quirk in the BIOS reared it's head. Basically, you can boot from the mSATA or "notebook drive" which appears on my machine to mean only Bay 2 if the mSATA is installed (or Bay 1 if there is no mSATA). The result was putting the mSATA in and moving the Hybrid drive to Bay 2 and putting the SSD in Bay 1 before I could successfully clone the Hybrid drive to the mSATA and still be able to boot from the Hybrid until I had the mSATA where I wanted it.

This configuration does place the SATA III SSD in the Bay 1 position which is the SATA III bay (yay - I think I answered part of your question here!).

Due to the outrageous pricing HP has for memory and HDD, I would definitely recommend buying your own gear and upgrading yourself if possible. I searched around and got the Bulletproof mSATA drive (SATA II) and a Corsair Force 3 SSD (SATA III) for decent prices (the Momentus XT is a SATA III drive). And yes, before anyone points out "you suk and should have got MegaMan SuperSSD ZZZ! because it's faster" I was going for price/"real world performance", not synthetic benchmark scores.  

Ports as identified by HDTune are: mSATA - SATA II, Bay 1 - SATA III, Bay 2, SATA II. 

To answer your questions:
1) No idea
2) Yes
3) In my case, II. I think they ship with the Samsung part which is also II
4) No idea
5) I would go with III
6) It could be since in my case I couldn't boot from Bay 1 if I had the mSATA installed. Keep in mind that any SSD is going to be silly fast compared to a normal HDD. In my case, I decided that the cost & flexibility were worth it to get a dedicated 128GB SSD boot drive that, while slower than my main 256GB drive will still allow decent boot speeds. For me, the price jump up to 512GB SSDs was just too ridiculous to contemplate. I tried, but it drove me to drink as even good scotch is cheaper than that price increase.

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jimmyk12
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Re: Envy 17 SSD compatibility

very helpful, bookmarked for reference later. thanks!
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