12-01-2009 10:47 AM
Thanks for your help
12-01-2009 11:41 AM - edited 12-01-2009 12:32 PM
That system should last at least the length of the warrenty.
I just spent a considerable amount of time on the phone with HP sales and HP tech support trying to understand how 3x2gb chips in the 6gb configuration can work in dual channel mode. The answers I was getting was. . . shall we say. . .unsettling. Several statements made contradicted the spec sheets published on the website and the information provided on the "purchase" pages.
I am reaching the conclusion (I don't think Dell is any different) that one should either;
a) Buy a cheap, disposable,machine or
b) Research the heck out of the system. . .and if something smells fishy; don't buy it.
The 9280's have a few dodgy memory configurations -> so be careful with those units. I think for any serious gamer, a 350W power supply is marginal I believe what you say about the 4850 requiring more power. I too am rethinking the e9250/e9270 because of the memory and the power supply. I am going to avoid the 6gb option on the 9250/9270 and get either the 4gb or 8gb version.
The trick is not "average" power, the issue is "peak" power; just like on stereos. A 350W supply will be pushed harder, on average, and will ultimately fail sooner. A better power supply will run on the lower end of its range, and will hit peak output less often. And will therefore last longer.
I am wondering if I should buy a e9280 8gb, and remove the extra 2gb chip to ensure the machine runs ok.
12-01-2009 09:13 PM
After reading MANY articles, and emailing tech support regarding RAM, I now believe more firmly than ever in Caveat Empor (let the buyer beware!)
You definately don't want to buy oddball RAM combinations from HP (or anyone else), even if they are offered. The 6gb option (3 chips) offered on the e9250t and e9270t is a case in point. If you do, it will work, but probably not as well as it *should*.
I think the same applies to the power supply.
Having resolved my RAM questions on the high end HP machines, I am turning my attention to the Power Supply. I do not consider 350w enough power for a high end computer with a 1gb video card. I will post what I find from Tech Support.
12-03-2009 12:37 PM
12-03-2009 01:00 PM
12-03-2009 03:54 PM
I got the same thing. . . "You can upgrade, but don't go above 450w".
Sounds bizzare to me. I view 450w is more of a *minimum* requirement, rather than a *maximum* requirement. I have not pushed the topic further because. . .well. . . umm. . . .the lack of eSata ports and the goofy memory configurations are making me look at Dell machines. They offer the same weak power supplies -> but they are better on the other points.
12-03-2009 11:03 PM
12-04-2009 12:13 PM
I just checked out both the E9250t and E9270t systems.
The technical spec sheets have been updated to include the graphic card option, but do not reflect alternate power supplies. Where did you find that information?
12-04-2009 12:20 PM
go to the video card configuration page and click on 'help me decide'. it states that the system will be upgraded with a higher wattage PSU, but doesn't state how much. i'm guessing it will be the 460 watt. still waiting on an answer from tech support.
12-17-2009 11:30 AM
I have e9200Z with 350W PSU and i am wanting to upgrade to 4850 Graphic card which requires 450W. I went into help me decide section and they have listed this graphic card for the same model but it doesn't say that PSU would be upgraded.
Anyhow, i bought this PC like almost couple mo's ago so what can be done now other than replacing PSU? Wonder how HP would have installed that card with this PSU reqt.
Does anyone know if HP gets those graphic cards customized build for them with low Wattage reqs or something?