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HP Specter X360 Thunderbolt 3 dock station

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Product Name: HP Specter X360
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit)

Edit: I moved this question to the Hardware sub forum. 

 

Hi everybody.

I'm trying to find the correct thunderbolt 3 dock station for my new Specter x360 . I noticed that HP has 2 dock stations offered for the Zbook. However, the wire from the dock station to the laptop is a dual USB-C & power jack.  

1. If I will buy a standalone thunderbolt cable, will it work with my Specter x360  and the Zbook dock ?

2. I noticed there are 2 models of the Zbook dock : 150W and 200W . Which one should I get, if at all?

 

Thanks for your help!

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Re: HP Specter X360 Thunderbolt 3 dock station

I am using this: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D32V2B2/ HP Smart Buy Elite 65W TB3 Dock. It works great, it does charge the laptop, the only things that don't work for me are Wake Over Lan and the power button on the dock. I've read that those could be fixed with a driver update but I'm not holding my breath. I have the new Kaby Lake X360.

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Re: HP Specter X360 Thunderbolt 3 dock station

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Do you have the 13' or 15"?

 

I've heard that the 15" needs 85W for power and that even then HP has turned off charging by 3rd party devices.

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Re: HP Specter X360 Thunderbolt 3 dock station

I have 13" . 

Do you think I could use the 150W  HP Zbook dock?

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Re: HP Specter X360 Thunderbolt 3 dock station

I would guess not -- it has that additional power connector built into the thunderbolt cable. But that is a guess on my part. I am on the search for one for a 15" i7

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I have the 13"

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Re: HP Specter X360 Thunderbolt 3 dock station

So I just got the HP Zbook 150W dock. Connected it to my Specter x360 via Thunderbolt 3 cable (not included with the dock).

Looks lie everything is woking + charging except the power botton on the dock). No drives installed or BIOS changes made.

 

One concern left: My HP stock charger is 20V . The Zbook dock power is 19.5V . I jope that will not creat any problems

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Re: HP Specter X360 Thunderbolt 3 dock station


Michael_777 wrote:

I would guess not -- it has that additional power connector built into the thunderbolt cable. But that is a guess on my part. I am on the search for one for a 15" i7


Michael_777, did you find a dock that worked with your 15" i7?

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Re: HP Specter X360 Thunderbolt 3 dock station

I have not found a dock that will support the new 15".

 

I may have to just live with the fact that I'll have to plug two cables in -- one to the dock and one to the charger.

 

OWC Thunderbolt 3 dock -- not released yet --(really geared to Mac use) only has 65W -- 15" uses 85W -- not sure if it just means slower charging. I chatted with support an they thought it might work, but just slower. I'm thinking not, but when asked about return policy they did say I could return it.

https://eshop.macsales.com/preorder/owc-thunderbolt-3-dock/

 

Elgato Thunderbolt 3 dock -- not released yet -- (also geared to Mac use) has 85W of power and they say it will charge your MacBook but they also specifically say, "This is a MacBook Pro specific feature." I have sent support an email asking about the specific charging question.

https://www.elgato.com/en/thunderbolt-3-dock

 

CalDigit TS3 Thunderbolt  Station 3 -- not released yet -- They say it will work with "PC with Thunderbolt 3" but won't charge the laptop. It has 85W of power. They also have a lite version but that doesn't do any charging.

http://www.caldigit.com/thunderbolt-3-dock/Thunderbolt-Station-3/

( simple resource page:  http://www.caldigit.com/USB-C/thunderbolt3.asp )

 

Belkin Thundbolt 3 Express Dock HD -- not released yet -- While it has 85W of power in the compatability section it says MacBook Pro (2016). I realize that might be because Macs seemed to be the early supporter of Thundebolt 3. Personally not a fan of Belkin products reliability.

http://www.belkin.com/us/F4U095-Belkin/p/P-F4U095/

 

Plugable Thunderbolt 3 dock -- not release yet, Q2 where others are say Q1 -- only 65W of power and they say that USB power delivery is dependent on the device. Not a lot of information on the unit on their website.

Plugable Thunderbolt 3 Dock

 

Startech 3 Dual-4K Docking Station for Laptops -- shipping --  Windows only. They say it will NOT charge your laptop.

https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/Laptop-docking-stations/thunderbolt-3-laptop-dock~TB3DK2DPW

 

Kensington SD5000T Thunderbolt 3 Docking Station -- not released, they don't even have a product page for it just a press release -- 85W of "laptop charging power". Does that mean it will charge your laptop? Or that power is available if your laptop can use it.

https://www.kensington.com/us/us/n/3699/1313/kensington-unveils-sd5000t-thunderbolt-3-docking-statio...

 

Hengedocks Tethered Dock -- not released yet -- very Mac centric. Has 85W of power. There is nothing on their site that has in info on working with Windows machines. Of any of the companies this is the one that inspires the least confidence on whether their dock would work.

https://hengedocks.com/pages/tethered-docks

 

Lenovo Thunderbolt 3 dock -- not released yet -- has a different selection of ports including VGA!?. 65W of power but only one Thunderbolt 3 connector. Not on their site yet.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10939/lenovo-launches-new-thinkpad-accessories-docking-and-displays

 

Dell Thunderbolt Dock TB16 -- shippping -- seems to have enough power. I know they had QC issues in a previous version of their dock.

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/SLN301105/dell-thunderbolt-dock--tb16--information--spe...

some comments about trying to get it to work:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/5ngldq/tb16_dock_arrived_and_working/

 

So that's the list that I found. It gets really confusing because a lot of the discussion about charging deals with charging of USB devices like phones and tablets. The TB16 looks more interesting than I originally thought. But it is expensive and seems big. I am also reticent because of their QC problems with the TB15. HP seems to be completely silent about the whole matter. It would seem that they could get their act together and make something happen with a third party.

 

I think I will wait another month to see what happens when more of these docks are released and people start tyring to make them work with various non-Mac laptops.

 

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Re: HP Specter X360 Thunderbolt 3 dock station

Update 3/17/17

I've been using The HP Zbook 150W Thunderbolt 3 dock for about 2 weeks. I had to buy another thunderbolt 3 cable to connect the dock to my Specter x360  .  The dock is working really well. Charging my laptop and no lag time for HD video when pluged to an external monitor.

 

The power bottun on the dock does not work (I guess only with Zbook).  And my mouse sometimes is acting up when I power up my laptop. But overall Very satisfied with this dock.

 

Attention: This dock is rated 19.5V . My laptop is rates 20 V.

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