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06-12-2018 08:51 AM
I would like to get decent performance for gaming /what should i upgrade Please provide recommendation for my
HP Z400 Workstation , Hewlett-Packard 0B4Ch
Processor : Intel Xeon W3520 4 cores,4 threads base clock 2.65 GHz
Graphics card :Nvidia GTX 750 Ti Gigabyte 2GB
Drives :Micron C400 RealSSD 128GB (windows installed on it)
Memory Kit :1600,1600,1333,1333,1333,1333 MHz
: 4096,4096,2048,2048,2048,2048 ,34816 MB
and this is my pc spec on : userbenchmark /UserRun/9146843
06-12-2018 09:27 AM
your current specs are allready decent performance wise for gaming at 1080p
you have to understand that a older system is not allways going to run the latest games at max visual settings
keep what you have for a bit longer, then if you want but a new system/video card next year or so
changing your current cpu or video card is not really going to bring any real game framerate increases compared to the money spent on the upgrades
06-12-2018 09:45 AM
changing your cpu will most certainly boost the numbers in benchmarking programs but not really make any diffrence in most games as they are usually "GPU" (video card) bound
and since your current card is not that much slower than a gtx 1060/1070 at 1080p resolutions it don't see the benefit of spending 400.00 + dollars to get 3 more frames a sec in a game .
if you game at higher resolutions then it might be something to consider in other words you need a UHD 2560x 1440 display before a faster card is required
06-12-2018 10:04 PM - edited 06-12-2018 10:12 PM
The key to gaming performance is the single thread perofrmance of the CPU, in it's relative capcity to constantly re-calcuate the position of polygons that make up the 3D image. That is a function of the processor clock speed on one core and the way it is affected by architecture, cache, memory throughput,and low disk access latency. These caluclations are also done by the GPU, snd both CPU and GPU contribute to the application of attributes- color and shading, but the overall 3D speed- ultimately the FPS- is governed by the processor. A very fast GPU though will be bottlenecked by a slow processor.
For the z400, the best processor for gaming will be the Xeon X5687, 4-core @ 3.6 /3.86GHz ($35-50 /6.18)- quite modern clock speeds. Passmark CPU benchmarks show a relative calculation density: clock cycles per unit time. The average single-thread score for your current W3520 is 1195 , while for the X5687, the score is 1571, the best for any LGA1366 CPU except the rare and expensive (up to $250) X5698 which is a 2-core @ an amazing 4.4GHz and with a single thread mark of 1851. However, at that price, it would be prefereble to buy a later LGA1151 or Xeon E5 system. A Xeon E5-1620 4-core @ 3.6/3.8 single thread= 1920 (mine scored 2057) and the z420 runs DDR3-16000 or 1866 (w/ E5-V2), has SATAIII and USB 3.0. On a cost/performance basis, moving a generation to LGA1151 or LGA2011 is something to consider- a better return on investment. There are a lot of very reasonably priced z420's these days and there was an i7-6700K / z240, the 6700K being one of the fastest gaming CPU's. Average single thread = 2351, making it a good 3D CAD system too.
The best 3D performance in a z400 is likely to include a Pascal GTX, but the processor limitation makes using a very top end model not cost /performance effective; really a GTX 1060 (Passmark average 3D = 8962) would be the maximum spec in that respect. The top z400 / 3D for a GTX 1060 is 9065, so a z400 is using it effectively. For comparison, the GTX 750 Ti = 3726. My choice for best cost /performance would be probably be GTX 970 (up to 8875 in z400) and if on a budget, the GTX 770 (up to 7582). More video memory is going to help in modern games.
The z400 motherboard is triple channel memory, so for best results use the same DDR3-1333 ECC unbuffered in every slot- either 12GB as 3X 4GB or 24GB as 6X 4GB. Place the modules according to the sequence in the manual.
For the best disk performance, consider a PCIe RAID controller card that changes the disk from SATA II 3GB/s to SATA III 6GB/s and add an SSD for the OS/ Programs drive. The LSI 9240 is a good one. I used a PERC H310 (LSI LSISAS2008 ) in a Dell Precision T3500 (w/ Xeon X5677), the Dell equivalent to the z400 and the Disk score improved for 2022 to 2749 only be adding the controller. These can also run many, fast SAS drives. I think the LSI 9260 supports 1,024!
I'm a big fan of LGA1366- had three systems, and these an be refined into some respectable performance.
Are you really a toolmaker?
PS: Why is 9 worried? Because 789.
< sorry about that one
06-13-2018 05:17 AM
if you decide to update your system, try using the timed benchmark feature from any current game that has this option
run the benchmark, note the results then make the cpu change and rerun the benchmark and note any changes
then change the video card, and again run the benchmark and note the new numbers,
running the benchmark before, and after each change will shou you what each change did and you can then see/decide it the changes were worth it
if you do do this, please post the results here so others can benefit from your observations if the changes were worthwhile