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I have an HP Media Center PC m7674n that I bought in 2006. At the time, I upgraded the system to run with an ATI HD X1950 Pro Video card (I believe a bigger power supply was added).

 

I still really like the computer; however, I want to upgrade the video card to a newer ATI product.

 

I really like the new ATI, in particular the ATI HD 5000 series but I am unsure on how to proceed based upon

what the needs might be.

 

Thank you.

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Here are the ATI performance (memory bandwidth) comparisions.  Also look at the DirectX level of support.  Your current card is pretty good.

 

Two questions?

 

How big is your power supply? 

 

Do you have room for a double wide card?  How much length is available for a new card?  Is the slot next to the PCI-E 16x open?  This is your motherboard.

 

The problem that your might run into with a  fairly powerful video card is heat. Look at the wattage consumption for a given card and consider the fact that you have a mini-tower and air circulation might become an issue.

 

If you are using a 32 bit operating system then max out the memory to 4 gb and with a 64 bit operating system go to 8 gb.

 

I'll probably go with the ATI 5750 for my m9200t system in next three weeks. It's an 18-86 watt card.  This card also might be a good choice for your system. I'll also will increase the memory to 6-8gb, upgrade to W7 64 bit and replace the power supply.

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The current power supply is a 550 Watt Antec Neo HE ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V.

 

I don't have room for a double wide--from what I can tell...doesn't appear to be any slots available as the next door slot is the slot (I think) for the wirless LAN? As far as length available for a new card, I am saying 1-1.5"?

 

Other system informration/configuation is the following:

 

MS Windows XP Media Center Edition, SP-3.

 

Intel Core 2 Duo 6400 2122 MHz.

The Motherboard is an Asutek Computer Inc. Basswood model

 

The Memory is 2048 MB (1024 MB DDR2-533 SDRAM per module).

 

Would I be able--or should I even try--to up the power supply to support a larger card--as you suggested?

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Length -- should be in the area of 10-12".  You were probably measuring sideways.  

 

Your power supply is plenty big for most video cards. The ATI 5750 would be a good choice.  Any bigger card might has heat issues and you wouldn't get all the benefit due to your PC's internal bus and memory speed.

 

The ATI 5670 is a single wide card and is close in performance to the 5750. However, most of these cards have an attached fan that might encroach on the adjacent PCI slot. Can you move that WAN card over a slot or two?

 

You might see some benefit by adding 2gb more of memory but the biggest benefit will be from the better video card.

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Which card would I be able to use?

 

HD 5670 1 GB

 

or

 

HD 5670 512 MB

 

Well, I don't see any slots available that I could move the WAN card over to? 

 

I see that you mention that an increase in memory would not increase performance by much. I was thinking that it might help a lot. I guess not.

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All three of the PCI slots are occupied?  Go for the card with the the larger memory.  This ATI 5670 is fairly narrow.

 

If after adding the new video card you are still not satisfied with performance then add 2gb more memory to the PC.  Buy the new dimms as a matched pair.

 

You'll probably end up doing both upgrades.

 

What game or application needs better performance?

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I am trying to maximize settings for the RTS, Company of Heroes and at present I am not able to accomplish this.

Obviously, I am not able to also take advantage of any DirectX more than 9.0c? (I think this is correct...??)

To wit and in addition, even when settings are lowered, I will sometimes encounter freezes after about approximately 5 minutes of gameplay. (Sometimes, it is just not a matter of freezing up, but I will also encounter a lot of just plain system degradation and/or video distortion [i.e., wild colors..., etc, etc.). Then, I will also sometimes see the following message:

 

"Monitor going to sleep".

 

Do you think this is due to overheating and/or not enough RAM?

 

I am seriously considering just buying another PC due to the fact that the motherboard may not be good enough?

But, it would be nice and preferable to upgrade the current system.

 

Any thoughts?

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Unplug your PC and open it up. Clean out all the dust using a can of compressed air.   Be sure that your PC has good air flow thru all the air intakes and exhausts.  Make sure that all fans spin. You may be running into a heat problem.  Be sure that you have the latest ATI video card driver update.

 

Gaming PCs are usually upper end models depending on how intense the game uses the hardware.  You have an older model PC so I new one for gaming is not too far out of line.  If you go with a new PC then buy one with the biggest video card you can get.  Game software usually specifies the minimum requirements to get OK performance assuming no other software is loaded and running (not the real world).

 

A new video card and 2gb more memory may amount to $200-$250.

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Thank you for your time and patience. It was very informative and your help has helped me solve my problem.

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I have a d4650y with 2gb ram & a Geforce 7600gt video card.  Can I upgrade the card to a MSI N260GTX Twin Frozr OC GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card?

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