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Upgrade 128SSD to 500SSD

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Hello,

 

I'm looking to buy the HP OMEN 15-ax003na with i7-6700HQ, 16GB, 1 TB 7200 rpm SATA and 128 GB M.2 SSD

My question is can I change the 128ssd to a 500ssd out of the box. So when I first turn the computer on it has the 500ssd in? Is there anything pre-installed on the 128 ssd..? 

I would replace with the Samsung 500GB 850 EVO M.2 SSD. This video shows install of ssd in the empty slot where the 128ssd would sit

Thanks!

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Hi,

 

Very risky, this will void warranty as implied on the following manual:

 

      http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c05217169.pdf

 

If you wish, please talk with an Authorized service provider parts.

 

Your machine already has 1 TB 7200 rpm SATA to store data/files.

 

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Hi,

 

Thanks for the reply! 

Why so risky though? I want to increase the speed of my machine and I can do this by replacing the ssd...

Regards

Jack

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The M.2 has the OS on it. Otherwise why would you want one? Likely operating files are actually split between the M.2 and the HDD if your laptop has both but I am seeing in the specs it has only the 128 gig mSSD so everything has to be on it.

 

 So you can do it; the video is pretty clear. But assume you will have to reload Windows onto it when you put in the 500 gig M.2. And also assume your warranty will not be there if you need it although in actual practice HP will sometimes be lenient on that if no damage was done. We just can't promise what will happen with the warranty in any specific case. 

 

I would boot it up as it comes from the factory and explore backup options maybe make the recovery media using the HP backup and restore program and uise that to place the same image on the 500 gig M.2. 

 

Also not clear why you think replacing the 128 gig M.2 will make the laptop faster. All you are doing is replacing a smaller fast drive with a larger drive. And the Samsung 850 Evo M.2 is a SATA drive while the 128 gig is an NVME aka PCI-e and is actually like 2 or 3 times faster. The SATA M.2 may not even work. So please before you follow youtube and just start replacing parts make sure you do your homework and understand exactly what you are doing. Stopping here was a good start.  

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Hello

Thanks for your thoughtful reply, really appreciated as I don't poses a lot of knowledge on this. 

In the manual for the laptop it states the 128ssd is - Generic SSD 128 GB 2280 M2 SATA-3 Value TL. So I assume it is SATA based and not PCI-e like you have stated? This was my main motivation to change the ssd. Would a PCI-e ssd work with the motherboard of this laptop? 

Thanks again,
Jack 

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You are right. Excerpts from hard drive section of the Manual:

 

PCIe NVMe TLC M.2 SSD 256 GB 512 GB

 

Hard drive +SSD conƭigurations

 

1 TB (7200) 9.5 mm hard drive + 256 GB PCIe NVMe TLC M.2 SSD

1 TB (7200) 9.5 mm hard drive + 128 GB M.2 SATA-3 SSD (Value)

 

So apparently it can use either an NVME (PCI-e) M.2 or a SATA M.2. Obviously if you have the chance get the PCI-e. I have the Zbook 15 G3 and I added a Samsung PM951 to it:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-PM951-256GB-Solid-MZVLV256HCHP-00000/dp/B016DR1MBE?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redi...

 

I think the Omen uses basically the same hardware as the Zbook...6th gen, DDR4. 

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Thanks

On the UK HP store I can only buy it in the configuration of 1 TB (7200) 9.5 mm hard drive + 128 GB M.2 SATA-3 SSD (Value).

To replace the 128 you said the samsung is another SATA... do you know any decent PCI-e ssd's? Would this ADATA work -

ADATA SSD ....-Do you have any idea what the 256GB SSD found in the laptop is?

Thanks! 

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The 128 is the ADATA, perhaps I would replace with one of these SSD's from competitors...

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Those 2 on the right are Pro level NVME...see how much faster? I am using the PM951, not SM951, and I get speeds more like the SanDisk A110 which is a consumer-level NVME. We know the port can handle a PCI-e disk. I am not aware what HP uses for its NVME but I think I have seen somewhere they are rebranded Samsung devices. 

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@JTANSER wrote:

... Why so risky though? I want to increase the speed of my machine and I can do this by replacing the ssd...


Hi,

 

I think I did mention about warranty. The book implies this work must be done by a dealer.

 

Regards.

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