BIOS blacklisting Intel 7260AC

[KarlHeidar]

Hi,

I have a problem with my laptop wifi card. It has stoped working, and i ordered a replacement from China.

Its a Intel 7260AC dualband wifi card.

But my current Bios Pavilion dv7-6b40eo F1.C does not allow this card in the PC and halts during startup with error 104.

Is there a way to remove this Whiltelist information on the BIOS ? I baught this PC recently for a large sum and i have spent alot of money upgrading RAM, SSD, cleaning and maintaining.

Any help would be apreciated

[erico]

Your notebook does not support any 802.11ac wifi adapters.  The supported wifi adapters are seen in the following image.  This is also dependent on whether your notebook has an AMD or Intel based systemboard.

[KarlHeidar]

Hi,

Thank you for your answer.

I know the laptop does not support any a/c modules.

I really disagree about the open infrastructure motherboard, since most of the components are in fact replaceable.

I have replaced the RAM, HDD etc. And now my computer that i have spent alot of money on only supports 11n Wifi, and not 11AC like i want it to, since this is a high end PC, and also a consumer product.

So my wireless network adapter is broken, when will you issue a new BIOS to support AC cards in these laptops ? 

Im willing to pay for just adding the HW ID of the card to the bios Whitelist.

Regards

Karl Heidar

[mstarly]

Can someone from HP please explain why the BIOS is still blocking this device...

I understand that when the unit came out this type of network adapter (AC)was still in the development stage and not really supported, but now 3 years after this laptop has been released, hardware has changed, now it actually costs 3-4 times as much as a new current device to get one of these "officially supported" devices that are 3 years out of date ....

Come on HP lift your game, test these units and get them released.

My laptop cost me over $1000 when I bought it at the end of 2011, and it was top notch, I've been able to upgrade my RAM and my HDD to an SSD drive to keep it current and running well, because let's face it, being a sole trader I can't afford to replace my chasis' every 3 years just to get the new cheap BETTER running devices.

TAKE THE BLOODY BLACKLIST OFF ... IT'S MY LAPTOP ... NOT YOURS ..........

if you can't tell ... I'm a little pissed ...

[PeerOne]

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mstarly wrote:

Can someone from HP please explain why the BIOS is still blocking this device...

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FYI this is called Whitelist and also did you consider chipset compatbility as well.

[PeerOne]

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KarlHeidar wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your answer.

I know the laptop does not support any a/c modules.

I really disagree about the open infrastructure motherboard, since most of the components are in fact replaceable.

I have replaced the RAM, HDD etc. And now my computer that i have spent alot of money on only supports 11n Wifi, and not 11AC like i want it to, since this is a high end PC, and also a consumer product.

So my wireless network adapter is broken, when will you issue a new BIOS to support AC cards in these laptops ? 

Im willing to pay for just adding the HW ID of the card to the bios Whitelist.

Regards

Karl Heidar

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Those other hardware are more available and can upgrade but wifi is proprietary hardware and what was made then isn't the same as what is available now. So what you want isn't always what you get now. If you want AC you will have to buy newer laptops that come without the whitelist or has AC wifi as part of the package. Trying to upgrade older hardware to AC will not work-there is a limit to any wifi upgrades.

[mstarly]

Peer One,

REALLY????

What a load of crap?

mPCIe cards is a STANDARD and cards are just as readily available, and whilst you are right in saying what was availible then isn't available now, that is why BIOS upgrades are released ... to ALLOW newer components to be used on the system ...

What is happening here is HP contolling MY SYSTEM so that they can get more money for trash equipment that is completely out of date!!!! ...

Your chipset compatability comment is just rubbish ... if it was the case then, there would no reason to whitelist, because you could plug it in and it just wouldn't work ... the chipset on the mPCIe card has nothing to do with the chipset on the board ... I have a similar aged MB in a desktop using the same chipset, and I have plugged a brand new 11AC card into it, and it's working fine ... why you might ask ... because the motherboard supplier (Gigabyte) is not trying to FORCE me to buy an "Authorised" item from them, like HP do ... they just released a BIOS update to ALLOW the board to read the 11AC card ...

[PeerOne]

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mstarly wrote:

Peer One,

REALLY????

What a load of crap?

mPCIe cards is a STANDARD and cards are just as readily available, and whilst you are right in saying what was availible then isn't available now, that is why BIOS upgrades are released ... to ALLOW newer components to be used on the system ...

What is happening here is HP contolling MY SYSTEM so that they can get more money for trash equipment that is completely out of date!!!! ...

Your chipset compatability comment is just rubbish ... if it was the case then, there would no reason to whitelist, because you could plug it in and it just wouldn't work ... the chipset on the mPCIe card has nothing to do with the chipset on the board ... I have a similar aged MB in a desktop using the same chipset, and I have plugged a brand new 11AC card into it, and it's working fine ... why you might ask ... because the motherboard supplier (Gigabyte) is not trying to FORCE me to buy an "Authorised" item from them, like HP do ... they just released a BIOS update to ALLOW the board to read the 11AC card ...

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Your living a world that isn't reality here. Your again comparing apples to oranges and FYI laptop boards are proprietary boards unlike Gigabytes that are general purpose boards that fit more then one computer. So stop comparing Laptop vs Desktop motherboards that has no merit to it. And this isn't limited to HP all laptop manufacture do this so this isn't a tactic that one and only one company does on their laptops.

[BrritoBlastr]

"Your living a world that isn't reality here..."  

Actually, no, he's completely right.  You're just being an ignorant dorkus and not considering the fact that "mini half PCI-e" wi-fi cards are all interchangeable.  Yes, there is an issue of chipset compatibility...like don't match up an AMD card with an Intel processor (etc.), but a MoBo will detect a connected card, you just have to have the appropriate driver.  He's not talking rocket science—he's not talking about putting an adapter in there to fit a newer technology card.  It literally uses the same kind of connector.   If it was a SATA III-reliant technology and your laptop only supported SATA I/II, then yes, you may be limited on the data transfer rate between the card and the MoBo, but that's not the case here; the connectors are identical (and, very likely, so is the operating system).

Final point: He's right about the white list.  It's stupid, and there is a way around it, but it requires reflashing the BIOS unofficially and HP probably wouldn't like it very much since it topples their sadistic Ponzi scheme of "White-Listing" anc ould potentially brick your laptop.

PS: Don't be such a pessimistic defeatist.  Where there is a will, there is a way...and never doubt human ingenuity and diligence!

Carry on!