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05-05-2016 04:06 AM
Hi,
I have a 7 month old HP Spectre X360 notebook and cannot get the backslash key to work with the built in keyboard or touchscreen keyboard. When i use the touchscreen keyboard & press backslash key, it highlights the Ctrl key on the touchscreen keyboard. When i press on the built in keyboard, i get nothing.
My laptop was recently sent back to HP due to a power failure & returned repaired, so i don't know if this is occuring since it returned or was always like this.
My setttings are English/Ireland and keyboard languages are English/GA and English/UK. Windows 10 64 bit with all the latest updates.
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks, Terry
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07-15-2016 07:13 PM
Hi
After having taken delivery today of a brand new Spectre 13 Pro today and had exactly the same problem (which frankly for a ~£1500 laptop is completely shameful) I decided to spend 3 hours on this or send the laptop back. I found your posts when I came searching for answers.
Three quick things I'll say here before I get into this (i) I'm not endorsing my "solution" I'm just telling you what worked for me [ classic "at your own risk disclaimer applies" ], (ii) I'm in the UK as well and this does seem to be a UK centric issue and (iii) I've been an IT engineer for 20 years so .. well, that's something... I know my own acceptable risk level for any given solution.. this one is classed as "brute force".
I have my Country / Region set to United Kingdom
I have my Language set to English (United Kingdom)
I only have the United Kingdom QWERTY keyboard layout present
I think it would be ok to have other keyboard layouts present but you must have the keyboard you want to function selected when you get started. So
I downloaded SharpKeys from CodePlex and installed it (http://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/). It's free and is simply a front end of the Windows keyboard scancode registry key.
I ran SharpKeys and the opening screen shouldn't list any existing From -> To mappings at this stage.
I Hit Add
I selected the Type Key option under Map this key (From key)
I pressed the \| key (don'tattempt to use shift / control / alt just press the \| key once) which in my case was mapped to Right Ctrl (E0_1D) and pressed OK
Then from the To this key (To key) list I scrolled down and chose Unknown 0x0056 (00_56) and pressed OK
Then I chose Write to Registry (again at your own risk), select OK and Close
Then I rebooted
What this does is setup a mapping from the seeming unusable \| key which the keyboard firmware seems to incorrectly signal is the Right Control Key and map that to scancode 0x0056. How did I find 0x0056? I ran SharpKeys on my desktop machine and pressed the functional \| and that's the scancode it gave me back. Whilst that scancode might be "unknown" to SharpKeys it is known to the Windows UK keyboard map.
SharpKeys sets up that mapping in the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layouts\Scancode Map BINARY
registry key.
The reboot is needed to make that registry key active and again I will warn you that if that mapping doesn't work for you you could end up with a keyboard mapping that gives you major input problems which take effect almost immediately the system boots up before the logon takes place. It also probably affects keyboards plugged in externally as well as the on-board version. I really didn't care too much because it was either force this to work or return the laptop (with a rather unpleasant note).
Anyway that worked for me.. but what a ridiculous hassle in exchange for a large amount of money for something that should've worked out of the box and not required a couple of decades of knowledge to deal with.
As a note to HP: You probably shouldn't bank on someone being this determined to be able to get a brand new top of the range laptop to work. Just set the UK keyboard firmware to return scancode 0x0056 when the \| key is pressed.. it's pretty simple.
Regards,
Stephen
05-06-2016 07:05 AM
Hi @IRL-TB,
Thank you for visiting the HP Support Forums and Welcome.
I have looked into your issue about your HP Spectre x360 Notebook not accepting the backslash. Here is a Windows 10 how to add input Language settings on your Notebook. Sometimes just changing them, restarting and changing them back fixes this issue.
Please get back to me how this goes.
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05-10-2016 04:27 AM
Hi,
Thanks for the suggestion but it hasn't worked for me.
I added English UK as a langage along with English Ireland & restarted - no change.
I then made English UK the default, restarted again and no change.
Here's an image attached of settings i have now...
i also noticed in Word/Outlook when i type in 1/2 it auto changes to 1/4 and vice-versa!! no idea why this is happening.
Any other suggestions?
thanks, Terry
05-10-2016 06:14 AM - edited 05-10-2016 06:14 AM
Hi @IRL-TB,
Windows 10 does not support all Language packs. See this section from Microsoft.
Thanks.
Please click “Accept as Solution ” if you feel my post solved your issue, it will help others find the solution.
Click the “Kudos, Thumbs Up" on the bottom left to say “Thanks” for helping.:smileyhappy:
I work on behalf of HP
05-11-2016 06:08 AM
Hi @IRL-TB,
The phrase you are referring to in your post is the section that states "Windows and apps might use your country or region to give you local content" , this does not apply to dialect or while typing.
The support language is UK English for Windows 10. You can add input Language settings on your Notebook UK English.
Thanks.
Please click “Accept as Solution ” if you feel my post solved your issue, it will help others find the solution.
Click the “Kudos, Thumbs Up" on the bottom left to say “Thanks” for helping.:smileyhappy:
I work on behalf of HP
05-17-2016 06:29 AM
Hi,
Apologies but i really don't follow what you are advising or recommending me to do.
Can you please advise why my backslash key is not working & what steps i can take to fix it?
As it stands my only other course of action is to log this with HP Support again.
Thanks
07-15-2016 07:13 PM
Hi
After having taken delivery today of a brand new Spectre 13 Pro today and had exactly the same problem (which frankly for a ~£1500 laptop is completely shameful) I decided to spend 3 hours on this or send the laptop back. I found your posts when I came searching for answers.
Three quick things I'll say here before I get into this (i) I'm not endorsing my "solution" I'm just telling you what worked for me [ classic "at your own risk disclaimer applies" ], (ii) I'm in the UK as well and this does seem to be a UK centric issue and (iii) I've been an IT engineer for 20 years so .. well, that's something... I know my own acceptable risk level for any given solution.. this one is classed as "brute force".
I have my Country / Region set to United Kingdom
I have my Language set to English (United Kingdom)
I only have the United Kingdom QWERTY keyboard layout present
I think it would be ok to have other keyboard layouts present but you must have the keyboard you want to function selected when you get started. So
I downloaded SharpKeys from CodePlex and installed it (http://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/). It's free and is simply a front end of the Windows keyboard scancode registry key.
I ran SharpKeys and the opening screen shouldn't list any existing From -> To mappings at this stage.
I Hit Add
I selected the Type Key option under Map this key (From key)
I pressed the \| key (don'tattempt to use shift / control / alt just press the \| key once) which in my case was mapped to Right Ctrl (E0_1D) and pressed OK
Then from the To this key (To key) list I scrolled down and chose Unknown 0x0056 (00_56) and pressed OK
Then I chose Write to Registry (again at your own risk), select OK and Close
Then I rebooted
What this does is setup a mapping from the seeming unusable \| key which the keyboard firmware seems to incorrectly signal is the Right Control Key and map that to scancode 0x0056. How did I find 0x0056? I ran SharpKeys on my desktop machine and pressed the functional \| and that's the scancode it gave me back. Whilst that scancode might be "unknown" to SharpKeys it is known to the Windows UK keyboard map.
SharpKeys sets up that mapping in the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layouts\Scancode Map BINARY
registry key.
The reboot is needed to make that registry key active and again I will warn you that if that mapping doesn't work for you you could end up with a keyboard mapping that gives you major input problems which take effect almost immediately the system boots up before the logon takes place. It also probably affects keyboards plugged in externally as well as the on-board version. I really didn't care too much because it was either force this to work or return the laptop (with a rather unpleasant note).
Anyway that worked for me.. but what a ridiculous hassle in exchange for a large amount of money for something that should've worked out of the box and not required a couple of decades of knowledge to deal with.
As a note to HP: You probably shouldn't bank on someone being this determined to be able to get a brand new top of the range laptop to work. Just set the UK keyboard firmware to return scancode 0x0056 when the \| key is pressed.. it's pretty simple.
Regards,
Stephen
08-02-2016 03:09 PM
I agree with you that HP probably should ship this somewhat high-end model with the correct keyboard mapping for the UK market. They may argue it's a mismatch with Microsoft Windows 10 UK language keyboard but either way they should probably sort it out on behalf of their customers.