HP Envy x360 Ryzen F19 BIOS disaster DO NOT UPDATE

[proxyx]

First of all, no one here has any knowledge of true changes F.19 BIOS has implemented. No one beside OP has posted whocrashed (software) dump files analysis to reveal the nature of their problems... so how can anyone assume that forcing the update of a display driver will resolve all issues that F.19 has introduced ?! Such driver update may, at best, alleviate, not fix, some of the issues, but not all, otherwise HP would have forced display driver update, it's that simple.

To resolve issues you need to know the true nature of problems and that involves, at least, dump files analysis. Without that it's just guesswork, or fishing in muddy waters, relying on luck rather then systematic analysis. 

What I read are several "recommendations" to get THIS... or maybe THAT display driver version to resolve what??! 

What is the issue this update resolves? ...crashes? ...crashes of what???

Name it, put some evidence forward... instead of pushing ppl to experiment, change windows policy etc.

Thank God F.19 is history for me (had to send it off to service as laptop became totally unusable), but there may be ppl stuck with it, for good or bad, so say what is/was your problem and then! talk about your "fix".

[Andrea55]

The new Bios doesn't get along with old drivers and the graphic is unusable (crash whenever in use), and that its understandable simply looking the effect after the bios update, that are written in the thread and saw yourself in your model.

Updating drivers solves the problem while Hp makes an official fix

[Jo-Kery]

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@ron_valen wrote:

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@Jo-Kery wrote:

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@ron_valen wrote:

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@Jo-Kery wrote:

Please note that the group policy method is only available in the Pro and Enterprise editions of windows.

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Gpedit.Msc can be installed on Windows 10 Home. 

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Oh really?  I did not know that.  What steps should I follow to install Gpedit.Msc on W10 Home?

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Read https://www.itechtics.com/easily-enable-group-policy-editor-gpedit-msc-in-windows-10-home-edition/

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That's super many thanks for the link!

[proxyx]

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@Andrea55 wrote:

The new Bios doesn't get along with old drivers and the graphic is unusable (crash whenever in use), and that its understandable simply looking the effect after the bios update, that are written in the thread and saw yourself in your model.

Updating drivers solves the problem while Hp makes an official fix

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LOL, "doesn't get along" is a truly "technical" description of a problem, that may be good for a divorce lawyer... 

"Graphics unusable, crashes..."... be more specific, will you?

This is a computer forum, not a relationship couselling service.

[ron_valen]

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@proxyx wrote:

First of all, no one here has any knowledge of true changes F.19 BIOS has implemented. No one beside OP has posted whocrashed (software) dump files analysis to reveal the nature of their problems... so how can anyone assume that forcing the update of a display driver will resolve all issues that F.19 has introduced ?! Such driver update may, at best, alleviate, not fix, some of the issues, but not all, otherwise HP would have forced display driver update, it's that simple.

To resolve issues you need to know the true nature of problems and that involves, at least, dump files analysis. Without that it's just guesswork, or fishing in muddy waters, relying on luck rather then systematic analysis. 

What I read are several "recommendations" to get THIS... or maybe THAT display driver version to resolve what??! 

What is the issue this update resolves? ...crashes? ...crashes of what???

Name it, put some evidence forward... instead of pushing ppl to experiment, change windows policy etc.

Thank God F.19 is history for me (had to send it off to service as laptop became totally unusable), but there may be ppl stuck with it, for good or bad, so say what is/was your problem and then! talk about your "fix".

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F.19 works with my machine which is bq100 cto model and I tested F.19 with Microsoft Basic Display Adapter

My machine's CPU stepping and Microcode revision update

I compared baseline drivers from 

HP ENVY X360 - 15-Bq108ca https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-envy-15-bq100-x360-convertible-pc/16851053/model...

Against my HP ENVY x360 - 15z-bq100 CTO from

https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-envy-15-bq100-x360-convertible-pc/16851053/model...

My bq100 CTO has HP's 65 watts power supply.

According to https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c05845854  

HP ENVY x360 - 15-bq108ca has 45 watts power supply which is different to my bq100 CTO's 65 watts power supply 

The basline drivers are very similar or idential for both models.

For Adrenaline 18.5.1 and 18.12.2

I run Chrome, FireFox, Doom 2016 Vulkan, Nier Automata, Divinity Original Sin 2, Witcher 3, Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice (Unreal Engine 4), NetFlix (Microsoft store), Dead or Alive 5, Sweet Home 3D (Java 3D),  ReCore (Microsoft store), Xenia (December 2018 build, Xbox 360 emulator to test DirectX 12 Feature level 12_1's ROV function)

I use my machine more than just internet and videos, hence the reason why I dump 22.19.655.1  driver.

[Andrea55]

Its not a single problem, all works related to graphic can't use graphic (message from windows), than screen goes white and the system restarts.

That sentence was allegorical...

The really intresting thing is that there are few user that have no problems with the new bios

[ron_valen]

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@Andrea55 wrote:

Its not a single problem, all works related to graphic can't use graphic (message from windows), than screen goes white and the system restarts.

That sentence was allegorical...

The really intresting thing is that there are few user that have no problems with the new bios

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I shown my CPU's revision and steppings which is more than thread starter's posts..

[proxyx]

Quote, Andrea55: "The really intresting thing is that there are few user that have no problems with the new bios"

Precisely, and if we were to learn something from that I suggest you use this app and post a most frequent cause, a relevant  excerpt from its report... otherwise it's not very useful. 

https://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed

HP didn't make this BIOS to wreck laptops on purpose, we know that, but if it happened we/they need to know why.

[ron_valen]

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@proxyx wrote:

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@Andrea55 wrote:

The new Bios doesn't get along with old drivers and the graphic is unusable (crash whenever in use), and that its understandable simply looking the effect after the bios update, that are written in the thread and saw yourself in your model.

Updating drivers solves the problem while Hp makes an official fix

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LOL, "doesn't get along" is a truly "technical" description of a problem, that may be good for a divorce lawyer... 

"Graphics unusable, crashes..."... be more specific, will you?

This is a computer forum, not a relationship couselling service.

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Your starting post is not good enough to compare my machine to your's i.e. not enough detail for 1 :1 comparsion.

[proxyx]

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@ron_valen wrote:

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Your starting post is not good enough to compare my machine to your's i.e. not enough detail for 1 :1 comparsion. 

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You're missing the point. Computer specs are irrelevant, even though I have at least the same... and most ppl's as well, do not differ much, but dump files are!