Finding iron oxide content of toner

[MarleyR]

Can someone advise me where I can find the iron Oxide content of toners?  I am doing a project that requires this, but before I spend money on the special paper that is also required, I want to know that my printer is capable of handling this.  I need approximately 60% iron oxide.  I presently use a HP Deskjet 5150 with a black toner number 56. 

Thank you

Marley R 

[Bob_Headrick]

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MarleyR wrote:

Can someone advise me where I can find the iron Oxide content of toners?  I am doing a project that requires this, but before I spend money on the special paper that is also required, I want to know that my printer is capable of handling this.  I need approximately 60% iron oxide.  I presently use a HP Deskjet 5150 with a black toner number 56. 

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Deskjet's use ink rather than toner, and the black ink is pigmented with carbon blackbeing the main ingredient of the pigment AFAIK.  You could search for the MSDS for whatever ink you are using, but I would expect about zero iron oxide in the #56 ink.

What is your application?  If you are trying to do check printing there are laser toner cartrdiges that have the proper toners.  I have never heard of inkjet products that support this.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, Microsoft MVP Printing/Imaging

[MarleyR]

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the reply. 

It makes sense that I need a printer with  cartridge rather than ink.  I also have a Laserjet 1200, maybe that will work because it does have a cartridge.  I have read that both  HP Laser Jet 1020 and HP 2300 .  Unfortunately, of the 6 printers I  have access to, none of them are these models!

I want to print designs/pictures onto special "photo fusing paper". When the prinnted paper, (actually a decal), is fused between glass, the pigment in the toner burns out and leaves just the iron. The iron produces a sepia colored image.  Or so my research tells me!  As I said, I would love to try it but not if  I need to invest in another printer.

Do you think the 1200 would work? I looked at the MSD but can't really determine what it says in regard to this.

Thanks again,

Marley R

[HLansing]

Marley,

One thought on this, given the desire for high iron content, is to try the 1020 with a MICR cartridge.  In order to nail the MICR specs, this toner must have a significantly higher iron content...since the M in MICR stands for Magnetic (Magnetic Ink Character Recognition). I beliveve this will ensure you are getting the iron content you need. 

[MarleyR]

Unfortunately the 1020 is one I don't have!  Maybe I'll just have to give the 1200 a try

Thanks

Marley

[Bob_Headrick]

If you want to try the Laserjet 1200 you will still need a MICR cartrdige for it, the standard laserjet toner is unlikely to work.  A search for Laserjet 1200 MICR Cartridge turned up a number of hits, one of these may be suitable. 

Regards,
Bob Headrick, Microsoft MVP Printing/Imaging

[twigster]

Intresting, sounds like the same as what I'm trying to do.  But I have a list of printers, and I'm wondering if there is some other common denominator to them....like is the toner that these printers use and different then the toner of the non listed lj use?  or do the thermal/drum run hotter then on other lj's.  can anyone shed some lite on this?

The printers that are suppose to work with this project are:

1018

p1006 & p1005

1020 & 1022

p1505

p2015

m1522n

3052 & 3055

m2727nf

Thanks 

[MarleyR · Accepted solution]

Hi there,

Just wanted to update on my little project.  I has been a great success, I printed a sheet of decals on the special paper using my HP 1200 series printer.  I didn't buy the MICR toner, but it worked!  The image prints in black tones and when fired with my glass, turns to beautiful sepia, just as promised. I found I can even add a little paint on top before firing opening up whole new avenues for me.

Thank you so much for all the help

Marley

[twigster]

Thanks Marley for the update - this is a much welcome info.....I'd still like to know if there is some common denominator between suggested printers or the toners that they use, as I'd like to pickup a multifunction lj.  I feel that the ability to scan and copy w/o having to connect a computer will be invaluable in this process as its not always practicle to have a computer in an art studio.

[TinaJ]

I am doing a similar project but using the decals on lampwork beads. I did a practice run using decals provided by a fellow lampworker and the images were fine and didn't burn off in the flame, so I bought a LaserJet P1006 specifically because I was told the HP toners had high iron oxide. Today I got a chance to play with the process and I printed some decals to use on my beads using my spankin-new printer. The bead with and adhered decal is introduced into the flame a bit at a time and then the image is coated with clear enamel to 'seal' the image so it won't burn or wear off. Unfortunately, it seems that the images will not stand up to the heat (like the ones I did for practice) and I would suspect that the standard cartridge is lower in iron oxide than I need. It is the CB435A cartridge.

Can someone please tell me specifically which toner cartridge to buy to get a high iron oxide content for the HP Laserjet P1006 printer? I did a search on "High iron oxide toner" and "MICR toner" and didn't get results that told me which cartridge I would need.

Thanks,

Tina