HP 3000 PRO 3000 SFF graphics card

[kevinwd1]

I want to install a graphics card with GDDR ram so I can do some simple 3D cad drawing.
Could someone recommend a graphics card that would work in this computer

Computer is HP 3000 PRO SFF
Serial No.[edit]
Product No VK191AV

[DGroves]

first of all does your 3d modeling program support openGL? or directX?    if openGL then a quadro/firepro card may be worth considering as they are much faster (even the low end cards) compared to  consumer "normal" directX cards

if your program supports directX, then skip the quadro/firepro and buy any video card that will fit in your low profile case which does not exceed the systems available power draw as a rule you can use any card that does not have a aux power connector,....meaning the card gets all power from the pci-e slot (75 watts or less)

check the HP quick spec list for your model/form factor and compare the listed HP  video cards wattage to the card you want to buy.

as long as you do not exceed this you will be fine

http://www.advance.no/Pdf.aspx?id=1159

[kevinwd1]

Program supports directX so will get either of the below cards of eBay unless you can advise otherwise

HP ATI Radeon HD4550 512MB DDR3 PCIe x16 Video Card 584217-001 ATI-102-B88901

AMD ATI Radeon HD6450 1GB GDDR3 LOW PROFILE Video Card ATI-102-C26405 (b)

Regards Kevin

[DGroves]

get the AMD ATI Radeon HD6450 1GB

better yet anyone of these:  (they are all under 75 watts)

https://graphicscardhub.com/graphics-cards-no-external-power/

[kevinwd1]

Probably out of my price range 😢

[DGroves]

i STRONGLY urge you to check the current prices on ebay,

any one of the cards in this list are much, much, faster than the  two "AMD" cards you listed

how much faster? around 4/6 times faster also the 2gb (or more) memory will be required for 3d modeling

unless you like waiting 10 min for the screen to redraw each time

[kevinwd1]

Would the HD 6450 card be compatible as specs for HP 3000 PRO only list the following cards

Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD
ATI Radeon HD 4350 (512MB) FH PCIe x16 Card (for MT only)
ATI Radeon HD 4350 (512MB) LP PCIe x16 Card (for SFF only)
ATI Radeon HD 4550 (256MB) DH PCIe x16 Graphics Card (available through January 2010) ATI Radeon HD 4550 (512MB) DH PCIe x16 Graphics Card (available after January 2010) ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB Dual Head PCIe x16 Card (FH for MT only)
NVIDIA GeForce G210 512MB ATX PCIe x16 (for MT only)
NVIDIA GeForce G210 512MB LP PCIe x16 (for SFF only)
DMS-59 To Dual DVI Y-Cable Adapter


As you can tell I’m not that smart with computers

Regards Kevin

[DGroves · Accepted solution]

please understand that HP only lists the cards that they decided to sell with that system, this does not mean other card will not work, only that hp has not decided to sell/suport them also many card models get released by the card makers after a system spec list is created by HP which again would not be listed because they did not exist at the time hp was putting together that system

bottom line, you can run ANY PCI-E VIDEO CARD THAT DRAWS 75 WATTS OR LESS AND IS LOW PROFILE

here's what a low profile card(s) look like) note also the other card model listed on that page

2gb ram

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIACUE5D55032

any video card that does not have a aux power connector on it is a card which meets the 75 watt or less requirement

buying a older card from the HP list is not a good idea for 3d modeling work. those cards are very slow and ram limited compared to any of the cards on the link i provided to you

most video cards, have a SFF bracket available along with the high profile (tower bracket)  simply ask the vender if the card you are interested in comes with the SFF bracket

[kevinwd1]

I have found these two cards at the local umart store

ASUS GeForce ® GT 1030 2GB GDDR5 low profile graphics card for silent HTPC build (with I/O port


Inno3D GeForce GT 710 2GB DDR3 LP

The GT 710 is half the price and was thinking of getting this one as we only do simple modelling to create cam programs for Cnc machines

[DGroves]

while either of them will work, the asus card will be much faster due to the GDDR5 memory

the other card uses ddr3 and therefor will be noticably slower in all aspects

please understand that the phrase "you get what you pay for" is a vaild statement here

do some research on google checking benchmark scores between the cards, also do the same on the software venders cad forum see what the users there think

the two cards are from diffrent era's and the 7xx series card is  from 3 generations ago (the 1030 card is current gen)

if it was me, i personally would balance the price diffrence/faster speed of the new card agenst how much money i would save and see if the much longer times to render/rotate 3d models is actually worth the saving 

most people HATE waiting, or using a system that displays/rotates/moves objects in fits and starts