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09-23-2024 08:59 PM
Hello, Dear HP Development Team,
I have an HP 805G8 DM with AMD 5700G and 64GB memory, but there are only Auto (equivalent to 512MB), 256MB, 512MB VRAM options in the BIOS.
Since the maximum fixed VRAM configuration of this device is only 512MB, some programs cannot work properly and cannot use the full performance of the iGPU.
I found that there are many people with the same needs as me in various communities, but their devices either come with higher VRAM options or can enable higher VRAM options through Smokeless_UMAF, but my HP 805G8 DM cannot.
I request the development team to add VRAM options above 512MB in the next BIOS version, such as 1GB, 2GB, 4GB, 8GB, so that devices with sufficient memory can better utilize the iGPU performance.
Thank you.
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10-30-2024 11:55 PM
Due to the development of AMD's integrated graphics driver, the HP 805 G8 DM had great potential to become the best model for non-Apple users to experience macOS, with much higher performance than the 10th generation Core.
Unfortunately, HP has always maintained a conservative BIOS strategy for its mini PC product line (on the contrary, HP AMD notebooks have opened gaming optimized options). Now the extremely cost-effective Mac mini M4 has killed the competition, with a cheaper price, and no longer need to endure the HP BIOS's 512MB limit on mini PC VRAM.
Thanks again to the community for the response, this topic ends here.
09-25-2024 07:59 AM
the HP 805 g8 is a specialty system designed for a specific market, IE-very small compact system
you should have checked that the system meet your software needs before buying the hardware
with that said the HP "quickspecs" plainly show a optional discrete video card is available for this system
which has a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB video ram video card option
(only available on the Desktop Mini with 35 W processor)
so you could have acquired a HP 805 G8 with this optional video card instead of the base onboard video default system
https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_4597643-4597687-16
09-25-2024 10:40 AM
Thank you for the reply.
This HP 805 G8 DM just meets my needs for Homelab. I don't use it for applications that require high-performance graphics card, so I don't need it to have a very strong graphics core.
I run Proxmox VE on it, and virtualize Windows11, macOS, Linux and other virtual machines to meet daily remote development and debugging work.
The problem I found is that some applications require at least 1GB of exclusive video memory to run smoothly, and currently 512MB VRAM will cause lag.
I hope that the HP development team can consider adding a larger VRAM option, especially as I have configured 64GB of memory, I can allocate more memory as iGPU VRAM.
09-26-2024 10:22 PM
Huh?.....you state:
"This HP 805 G8 DM just meets my needs for Homelab. "
tnen in the next sentence you state:
"The problem I found is that some applications require at least 1GB of exclusive video memory to run smoothly, and currently 512MB VRAM will cause lag."
which seems to me your base system does not meet your needs,......so which statement is correct?
you can't have it both ways!
and to answer your question, no HP is not going to reengineer your model system to increase the base systems video ram when they offer a optional video card which does just that...........................
09-27-2024 01:13 AM - edited 09-27-2024 01:15 AM
I have a clear positioning for hardware.
For daily storage and backup, I have an HPE Microserver Gen10 Plus v2 (E-2378, 32GBx2, 16TBx4) with TrueNAS installed to provide intranet services.
For complex computing and rendering tasks, I have enterprise-level rack-mounted servers from DELL and Supermicro in the equipment room, equipped with multiple powerful RTX graphics cards, which I will turn on and use when needed.
The reason why I chose HP 805 G8 DM is that it is very small and has sufficient AMD core graphics performance. It can be placed directly in the living room next to the TV and router, and used as a Homelab to run intranet services and do some experiments around the clock (please note that I did not regard it as the lowest-end business computer, I regarded it as a better-performing x86_64 version of the Raspberry Pi).
The problem I submitted is that this machine has been configured with 64G memory, but the BIOS can only set the UMA Size of 512MB, which obviously wastes such a large amount of memory and the output performance of the AMD core graphics, and will also affect some of my experiments and intranet service experience.
My original intention was to consider the issue from the perspective of the majority of users who use HP 800 series mini hosts as Homelabs, and suggested that the HP development team, like other manufacturers, provide a larger UMA (VRAM) configuration option in the BIOS.
You can reply to me and clearly state that "HP will not consider providing a larger UMA (VRAM) configuration option in the BIOS like other manufacturers", so that I know that the official policy will not work, and turn to find other solutions, such as adjusting the video memory usage of the service based on the 512MB UMA (VRAM) limit, or looking for a modified version of the BIOS, or completely abandoning the HP mini host series and turning to other manufacturers.
But you always reply that "your device does not meet your needs" and "HP has provided a dedicated independent graphics card for HP 805 G8 DM", which are useless replies and suggestions to me.
I don't want to continue the meaningless debate, which is not in line with the community's mutual assistance policy. If you still insist on your point of view, just close this topic.
10-30-2024 11:55 PM
Due to the development of AMD's integrated graphics driver, the HP 805 G8 DM had great potential to become the best model for non-Apple users to experience macOS, with much higher performance than the 10th generation Core.
Unfortunately, HP has always maintained a conservative BIOS strategy for its mini PC product line (on the contrary, HP AMD notebooks have opened gaming optimized options). Now the extremely cost-effective Mac mini M4 has killed the competition, with a cheaper price, and no longer need to endure the HP BIOS's 512MB limit on mini PC VRAM.
Thanks again to the community for the response, this topic ends here.