Sata 3 pci card for SSD on z600

[DGroves]

nowadays there are better programs available than adobe premier,  i strongly recomend you look at alternatives

and here's a link to a review on cpu cores vs performance from 2015

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-2015-Multi-Core-Performance-Update1...

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-free-alternatives-to-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-for-Windows

[jack768]

I have a Z400 & a Z600 but they have not got an SSD in them YET.

You seem to be looking for some speed figures, I'm afraid my main PC

is only a XW8200 (a bit old hat')

It has a cheap Ebay SATA 3 card card, cheap Kingston SSD, WD SATA 3

HD plus another Hitachi SATA 2 drive. But I can show you the  Crystal-

Disk speed figures for them.

[jack768]

Should have added this :-

I think these speeds are relative to the CPUs  therefore they are,

2x Xeon running ay 3.80Ghz both Hyperthreaded.

So your cpu must be a lot faster.

[DGroves]

SATA and also NVME SSD's data xfer speeds have nothing to do with the speed of the CPU as it's usually a DMA type access

DMA access means the cpu starts the data xfer then disconects to do other things and will not reconnect till the data xfer is done.

there are many reasions why the benchmark numbers can be diffrent below are just a few

the reasion people get diffrent results in drive speeds is usually due to the OS itself and it's housekeeping functions, and available system ram used,.... also faster ram bus speeds will usually result in faster data xfers and how much data is allready on the ssd can affect speeds.

also a SSD without onboard cache will be slower than one with onboard cache

a interesting side note is that overclocking a system can actually slow down the data xfers from the storage device to ram in some cases

[Robbie86]

Quick Question.
I'm thinking of getting this card for my HP Z600, Just need an oppinion.

https://www.amazon.ca/GLOTRENDS-PCIe-NVMe-Adapter-Support/dp/B075HZVG3X/ref=pd_sbs_0_18?_encoding=UT...

[DGroves]

you will "boot" from the  sata connector on the card (using a sata SSD) or from a sata based nech drive connected to the motherboard SATA port as the z600 is unable to boot from ANY nvme device

you can however use the NVME SSD as a data device

[Robbie86]

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@DGroves wrote:

you will "boot" from the  sata connector on the card (using a sata SSD) or from a sata based nech drive connected to the motherboard SATA port as the z600 is unable to boot from ANY nvme device

you can however use the NVME SSD as a data device

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I was going to use my SSD with the connector, but what your telling me is that, I can not use it with a boot drive?

[Robbie86]

Well I got this one and it boots up windows got me just fine with my SSD

[DGroves]

just understand that the card you bought will not give you SATA 6 data speeds, because the z600 has a pci-e 2.0 bus that is half the speed of pci-e 3.0 bus as found on a z620 (the cards link speed is not the same as the data speed)

in order for a card to give true sata 6GBps speeds on a pci-e 2.0 bus you need a card that is at least x2 not x1 as the card you bought is a x1 card

a card like the syba 40054 is one such card that uses a x2 pcie interface and has internal an external options

http://www.sybausa.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=182&search=SD-PEX40054

also the pcie hard drive card SHARES it's max bandwidth between attached devices so if you attach 2 ssd's to a x1 card using a pcie 2.0 bus neither card will be able reach max speed at the same time due to each card wanting all of the available bandwidth

a pcie 2.0 x1 card max is 500 MB/s

a pcie 2.0 x2 card max is 1.0 GB/s

a pcie 3.0 x1 card max is 984.6 MB/s

a pcie 3.0 x2 card max is 1.97 GB/s

[Robbie86]

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@DGroves wrote:

just understand that the card you bought will not give you SATA 6 data speeds, because the z600 has a pci-e 2.0 bus that is half the speed of pci-e 3.0 bus as found on a z620 (the cards link speed is not the same as the data speed)

in order for a card to give true sata 6GBps speeds on a pci-e 2.0 bus you need a card that is at least x2 not x1 as the card you bought is a x1 card

a card like the syba 40054 is one such card that uses a x2 pcie interface and has internal an external options

http://www.sybausa.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=182&search=SD-PEX40054

also the pcie hard drive card SHARES it's max bandwidth between attached devices so if you attach 2 ssd's to a x1 card using a pcie 2.0 bus neither card will be able reach max speed at the same time due to each card wanting all of the available bandwidth

a pcie 2.0 x1 card max is 500 MB/s

a pcie 2.0 x2 card max is 1.0 GB/s

a pcie 3.0 x1 card max is 984.6 MB/s

a pcie 3.0 x2 card max is 1.97 GB/s

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OK, IC So I have to use this for now but was looking at this one.
It's a 2x aswell if i'm not mistaken?

https://www.sybausa.com/index.php?route=product/product&manufacturer_id=13&product_id=916
On secand thought it looks like it's only a 1x

There is this one aswell https://www.sybausa.com/index.php?route=product/product&manufacturer_id=11&product_id=177&page=8

So it's looking like it's hard to find anything in my area (Toronto, Canada)