Upgrading graphics card on Z800

[Tyran-nosaurus_]

SDH,

I'll create a new post when this is all finished. Still gotta find that Liquid Cooling System! 

I like your eBay info-seraching technique. I've seen it before in another thread on Z800 processors.

Walter

[Tyran-nosaurus_]

Hi Scott,

I finally found a new liquid cooling system for the Z800 project at an outrageously low price from Germany: half what many are charging for a used system on eBay. Two were available, in case anyone is looking.

There is now only one more piece in the hardware puzzle: the PCIe SSD for my boot/applications drive as you suggest. Looking at Kingston, I find they're now offering the KC 1000 NVMe (what I got when Googling "Kingston Predator M.2 PCIe"). What do you think of this?

Alas, I'll have to live with my old origninal equipment SATA HDD for the time being.

Thanks a lot!

Walter

[DGroves]

the drive you mention appears to be a nvme drive WITHOUT legacy oprom support. as such it is not useable on a z800 as a boot drive (will work as a data drive)

for the z800  you must use a nvme ssd that includes the legacy oproms 

such as the sm950 and kingston preadator or the intel 750 series SSD card

if you can't find one of the above, then look for a pci-e x4 based SATA SSD like the sm951 which is available in SATA/nvme

[Tyran-nosaurus_]

D Groves,

Thanks for the reply!

Not much luck finding Kingston Predator cards. The Intel 750 series cards are available, but the size (and the price) is too big for me: I'm looking for a 256 Gb card.

I am finding Samsung SM 951 cards in 256 Gb at good prices. The 951 cards come in two flavors: NVME and AHCI. Would the AHCI work for me? It seems like it's the legacy standard.

I'm not sure what you mean in your last sentence: it appears that the sm 951 is not a SATA card.

Are you suggesting that I go for a 2.5" internal drive and and PCIe SATA adapter/controller plus cable?

Please bear with my ignorance in this stuff. I am but a simple ME.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Walter

[DGroves]

double post (ignore)

[DGroves]

look for the samsung sm951 (SATA/AHCI model)

or the SM950 (has legacy orom support) so  nvme  can be used  (same for the intel 750 card)

both of the above are pci-e x4 based ssd's and are quite fast i belive they are faster than the predator model

in benchmarks, but suspect in real world use that all 3 would perform about the same

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=sm950&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0...

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=ssd+sm951+sata&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-750-Series-400GB-Internal-SSDPEDMW400G4R5-SSD/183050547336?epid=21650...

[Tyran-nosaurus_]

D Groves,

Thanks a lot for the clarifications!

I'm bidding on the Intel 750. I like the idea of the heatsink on the card.

Best,

Walter

[cincinnatiman]

u know i love some one awaser quistions with out ton links,

so i will i currenty have hp z800 and it is much like a server, there is no board on markert that u build that can eqaul it, why price is still so high on it,

as to the quistion, i have run hp z800 loaded with harddrives two 6 core cpu's 

and fx 5800 for years, on 800 watt power supply and i do meen this is loaded 

i use help microsoft make paches, in any case, yes this can run high end card,

now if u want run two, u got probem, or not, i just got a 1200 watt power supply for it for 100,00

used grated but dose work, and will have power i need to upgrade the cpu's and run two fx 5800

one may ask why dont u go for a 8 gig card well more to a card then video, one can use it to process information, 

i can run a 2ed 5800 or a telsa card, now people out there say these cards wont work unless programs are coded to run on them this no longer the case, the drives now take care this, also as this is old thread want add hp has made a new bios update for this, i would strongly sujest to flash the bios, it will give the pc the abuilts that it should have in past just software never supported it,  this pc and z820 is still one the best workstations used

and they are worth upgradeing and worth the time and effort to upgade these, u never find a more sold pc,

as for the drivers i wish hp would update them,  and add software support needed for todays market,  

some the old hp servers found on ebay for 100,00 people dump, but put money in them u can in all sence of words make them again state of the art, i got ml 350 g6 all says dont support video, so i got nvida plex and put two telsa cards in it, and it is now a supper computer when comes to cruching numbers, 

the newest at 200k strip at this price shure they beat it but time u get done u have 500k in all of it, 

hp has some best workstations and servers, throw i do hate how they lock down there drivers for there servers,

these should be free, servers that be used even in home is now impossable becuase the drivers now lock, 

and this dont make sence for out dated servers,  HP please alow access to the older servers drives once again,

please alow us use the out dated servers and bring new life to them, as most of us cant afoud to buy new 

[DGroves]

you are confusing HP Consumer/workstations/Printers company, with HPE (enterprise) a diffrent company

HP split into two seperate companys some time ago, and HP has no control over HPE

it is HP "Enterprise" company that has the driver restrictions on downloads

HP, the "non enterprise" company has no such restrictions, and posting here about HPE policies will do very little