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05-22-2022 05:02 PM
I have a hp z620 with dual e5 2620 CPUs and a gtx 1080 ti. I want to upgrade my pc for gaming and I want to upgrade my CPUs. I narrowed down the two CPUs in my budget to the e5 2643 and the e5 2680. I will be buying two of whatever CPU I am getting. To my knowledge, the e5 2643 has better single-core performance and better base clock speed but the e5 2680 has more cores. Which CPU would be the best for gaming?
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05-23-2022 09:10 AM
@john-Jackson wrote:Wouldn't the 16 cores of the dual e5 2680 be unnecessary for gaming, since games use at most 8 cores, so better single-core performance would be better than more cores if you're talking about CPUs with more than 8 cores in gaming.
correct, the 2680 has 16 threads and 8 cores so I would go with that one and all the processing would be done on a single CPU. With a pair of CPU and 4 cores each (that other E5), if the app needed 8 cores then CPU access arbitration to shared memory would probably throw in a wait state or two. A single 2680 has 20mb cache which will fit more of the game into the cache and less into the much slower main memory.
IMHO, with $0.02, you are turning a server / workstation into a gaming system. The E5-2680 runs at 2.7ghz and to do turbo of 3.5 is basically overclocking it for the duration of the game. Ideally you should be using a gaming system which is designed for running fast and has liquid cooling and air flow optimization. Everyone has a budget.
With 32 threads you could be running 32 apps modeling cures for SARS-Cov among other useful contributions to science.
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php
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05-22-2022 06:16 PM
I would get the E5-2680 and disable hyper threads. Modern games take advantage of multiple CPUs. If a game uses 8 cores but 4 of them are actually threads in the same core then the CPU can overheat and is not as efficient as having 8 actual cores.
I guessed your total devices for a power analysis using two E5-2680 and gtx-1080ti here:
https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
and come up with minimum 750 watt power requirements. I hope you have plenty of air flow and can put up with a lot of fan noise for air cooling.. Liquid cooling for 135 watt cpu will take pair of 120mm fans on 240mm radiator each CPU.
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05-22-2022 10:15 PM
Wouldn't the 16 cores of the dual e5 2680 be unnecessary for gaming, since games use at most 8 cores, so better single-core performance would be better than more cores if you're talking about CPUs with more than 8 cores in gaming.
05-23-2022 09:10 AM
@john-Jackson wrote:Wouldn't the 16 cores of the dual e5 2680 be unnecessary for gaming, since games use at most 8 cores, so better single-core performance would be better than more cores if you're talking about CPUs with more than 8 cores in gaming.
correct, the 2680 has 16 threads and 8 cores so I would go with that one and all the processing would be done on a single CPU. With a pair of CPU and 4 cores each (that other E5), if the app needed 8 cores then CPU access arbitration to shared memory would probably throw in a wait state or two. A single 2680 has 20mb cache which will fit more of the game into the cache and less into the much slower main memory.
IMHO, with $0.02, you are turning a server / workstation into a gaming system. The E5-2680 runs at 2.7ghz and to do turbo of 3.5 is basically overclocking it for the duration of the game. Ideally you should be using a gaming system which is designed for running fast and has liquid cooling and air flow optimization. Everyone has a budget.
With 32 threads you could be running 32 apps modeling cures for SARS-Cov among other useful contributions to science.
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php
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