GPU Upgrade, Measurements HP ENVY Phoenix

[HannesRL]

Hi! I have recently added an i7-4770k CPU and a 1TB SSD, but now I am wondering about upgrading my GPU as well. I've opened the case before and taken a quick look, but I couldn't really tell how much would fit (LxWxH).

The card I'm looking at is the MSI Radeon RX 6650 XT MECH 2X OC which has the dimensions 235x125x47 whereas my current 770 2gb card has 267x111x38. I'm not so worried about the length; I'm thinking of removing the retaining bracket since it seems to be limited to my current GPU. Btw, do I need the retaining bracket? (I'm pretty sure that's not needed.) I've also looked at the wattage and that is not a problem (I have a 600 W PSU, recommended for new the card is 500 W).

Anyway, does anyone know what dimensions this type of computer case/motherboard (Kaili motherboard) can take? Maybe a dumb question, but it seems difficult to fit anything else than my current GPU, especially with the GPU bracket on.

[NonSequitur777]

@HannesRL,

Welcome to our HP User Forum!

Your HP ENVY Phoenix 810-000eo Desktop PC, according to: https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-envy-phoenix-810-000-desktop-pc-series/5395579/document/c037..., is, as you mentioned, fitted with the 24-pin ATX-power enabled Kaili motherboard (MS-7826, SSID: 2AF3).

According to this YouTube HP Envy Phoenix 810 graphics card upgrade: Refreshing a 7 Year Old Pre-Built HP Gaming PC - YouTube, a GTX 1060 6GB card would fit. When we look at this card's specs here: https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/dual/dual-gtx1060-o6g/techspec/, its L x W x H is 242 x 43 x 130 mm, suggesting to me that an RX 6650 XT (with L x W x H of: 235 x 47 x 125mm) would fit just fine:

Please verify what you mean by "GPU bracket" -a picture would be awesome.

Speaking of your i7-4770K upgrade (3.50 GHz to 3.90 GHz, 84 watt TDP), this processor would also be compatible: the i7-4790K (4.00 GHz to 4.40 GHz, 88 watt TDP).  This bad boy's nickname is "Devil's Canyon" -but I digress.

Hope this was helpful.

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur777

[HannesRL]

Ok thanks. The biggest difference is probably how the cords sit since mine seem a bit more rigid so I will probably need to get rid of the ’plastic cord fastener’ and let them hang more freely. 

What I meant by the GPU retaining bracket is the metal piece in the middle holding the cords inwards and the GPU at its front. But I think that’s used primarily because of shipping movement and nothing that I really need now. 

 

 

 

 

 

In the 2nd last picture here, there is not so much room up to the SATA cables, I maybe will have to unplug my DVD drive or HDD to make my new GPU fit. I.e. moving the cables to the top row, only using 2 of the 4 SATAs. 

And in the third last picture there seems to be about 32 mm of room out to the computer case so that seems fine. So I think it’s mainly the height that could be a bit tricky. 

About the CPU, I think you might be right but I was reading online on some forums that it could be a problem getting it running. And I was also recommended here on HP that 4770k was the best option. Either way, I’ve already bought it and there isn’t a huge difference performance-wise. 

[NonSequitur777 · Accepted solution]

@HannesRL,

You don't need/want that metal brace, get rid of it:

The i7-4790K was just a suggestion -its TDP is only 4 watt more (88 vs. 84) than your i7-4770K.  If your current setup runs not too hot, an i7-4790K remains an option and it does come with a substantial performance increase: UserBenchmark: Intel Core i7-4770K vs i7-4790K.

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur777

[HannesRL]

Alright thanks again. I’ll be looking if I see a 4790k for sale.

I guess I don’t have any big problems getting the GPU to fit if I remove the metal brace and maybe move one or two SATA cables. 

[NonSequitur777]

@HannesRL,

You are very welcome -glad I could be of assistance.

If interested, an i7-4790K can be purchased at what I would consider to be very reasonable prices via eBay -you can get one for less than $100 -that is, if you live in the US: i7-4790K for sale | eBay, meaning, it won't break the bank.

You may find this link interesting too: Is Intel i7 4790k still good? (2022) | Playonbudget.

One observation though: when I upgraded several legacy HP desktops with the i7-7700K -which can run hot while gaming, I had to improve the airflow through the CPU heatsink.  If this becomes necessary for you (CPU runs hotter than 90°C when running a stress test), you can remedy that by installing a more powerful heatsink cooling fan and/or installing an additional cooling fan (or fans!) or even upgrade the CPU heatsink, like I did in my most recent upgrade project: Solved: Re: Upgrading HP ProDesk 600 G3 MT - Page 3 - HP Support Community - 8544105.

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur777