HP prodesk 400 g3 mini CPU upgrade questions

[Francesco_65]

Hello Paul,

I would like share with you (and all) my last experience about this topic i.e. an hp ProDesk 400 g3 and Intel i5-7500T working with Windows 11 (that with CPU does not meet the minimum requirements).

After May reply here I joined the Windows Insider program to get preview versions of the latest builds and 24H2 release.

Anyway from May to few days ago, no build update was occurred automatically, so I proceeded to do manually downloading and installing the latest build by Hub Microsoft Insider as ISO file.

My PC thus went from the latest (on May) build released for normal distribution to the Insider build 26100.863 (released on June 19), and then immediately and automatically updated to 26100.1000 upon restart.

This update meant that compared to the old May build released for normal distribution, my PC with 7th generation CPU no longer told me that device is not fully compatible and may experience some issues but only that my PC with 7th generation CPU was upfated to latest build. The warning of that device is not fully compatible and may experience some issues now is disappeared.

Back to you for any comments.

Thanks!

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi, Francesco:

That is very encouraging news.

I'm going to wait patiently and see what happens when Microsoft releases W11 24H2 to the public in September/October.

I will be very happy if my PC's get the update.

I only have one that has an Intel 7th gen core processor, a Dell Optiplex 7050 MT with an i7-7700.

The rest of them are older, so I will really be interested if all of them get the update, just the Optiplex, or none of them.

Cheers,

Paul

[Francesco_65]

Hi, Paul

Thanks for the feedback!

Yes, also to me looks forward see what happens when Microsoft releases W11 24H2 to the public in September/October.

I also wanted to underline that, beyond my latest experience with Windows Insider, it is not strictly necessary to update the build of the operating system with an external device (USB pendrive), but that it is possible to do the update simply by downloading the ISO image of the latest release (by Windows Insider) and run the "setup.exe." (maintaining your personal settings and files).

That my experience.
Hope to been help.

Ciao.

Francesco

[Paul_Tikkanen]

That is great news, Francesco.

Ciao,

Paul

[Francesco_65]

Paul,

just to inform/confirm you that today update of Versione 24H2 was automatically worked from Build 26100.1000 to Build 26100.1150

Ciao

Francesco

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi, Francesco:

That's very encouraging!

Ciao,  

Paul 

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi, Francesco:

Well, I decided to see what would happen if I tried to upgrade my 800 G3 Desktop Mini with the i5-6500T to W11 24H2.

It was a very interesting experience.

Prior to 23H2 if I tried to join the Windows Insider program, it indicated my PC did not meet the requirements to run W11.

This time, it let me join.

I selected the beta channel, but it only installed an update to 23H2.

So, I switched to the Developer channel, and it downloaded and installed W11 24H2 automatically.

So, that seems to indicate that even a PC with an Intel 6th generation core processor can be upgraded to W11 24H2 with no hacks.

The interesting thing will be to see if the PC updates to future releases of 24H2 and will let me stop receiving preview builds.

Right now, that option is grayed out.

On my W11 notebook, I can turn that option on and once the final version of W11 24H2 is released to market, it will not get any future Windows Insider updates.

I enrolled in the Windows Insider program last year just so I could download the W11 23H2 ISO file before it was released.

Ciao,

Paul

[Francesco_65]

Ciao Paul,

look like that your latest experiance and tests is very similar and alligned to my recent experiencies, i.e. Windows 11 version 24H2 (Insider program) works, or better to say, not report that not meet minimum requorements for 6th and 7th CPU generations, and the updates to new releases are going in automatic.

Before now this not happened with version 23H2.

Maybe Microsoft has softened its policy...

We'll see.

Francesco

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Ciao, Francesco:

Now I am trying with older PC's...A HP 350 G1 notebook with an Intel 4th generation core processor and a Dell Optiplex 3020 desktop PC also with an Intel 4th generation core processor.

Both PC's allowed me to enroll in the Windows Insider program and download the Beta.

Now I have to mount the W11 24H2 ISO file and see what happens...

Paul

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Ciao, Francesco:

Here is a report of how my PC upgrades went...I have some 12 or 13 of them so, I have not done them all and the older ones -- they all had different issues.

OK, the easy ones:  

The 800 G3, 6th Gen and the Dell Optiplex 7050 MT, 7th Gen.

I also upgraded a HP Stream Pro 11 G4 EE with an Intel Celeron N3450 quad core processor.

It is the much weaker equivalent to a 7th gen core processor.

Pretty much the same experience as you had on the above three.

Note that I enrolled each PC in the Windows Insider program (including the 3 newer ones)--Beta Channel and downloaded the enablement package as prompted and restarted the PC.

I used the 24H2 Release Preview ISO file for all PC's.

Now this is where it gets both interesting and frustrating:

I have a HP 350 G1 notebook, Intel 4th gen, UEFI BIOS/Secure Boot.  Unsupported processor and no TPM chip at all.

Would not upgrade to W11 24H2 the easy way.

It would not even upgrade to W11 24H2 using the latest Rufus mod to bypass secure boot, processor and TPM.

Reported a 'No TPM 2.0' device and quit.  That never happened before on the earlier W11 builds.

So, I had to resort to using this workaround which worked great.  The 350 G1 is happily running W11 24H2.

How to install Windows 11 24H2 on Unsupported PC (Early Access) 2024 (youtube.com)

Next was the Dell Optiplex 7020, Intel 4th Gen, UEFI BIOS/Secure Boot, only a TPM 1.2 security device,

The Rufus utility upgraded that to W11 24H2 with no problem.  The usual result I have gotten on all my PCs in the past.

Next was an HP 8200 Elite CMT, Intel 2nd Gen core, has a UEFI BIOS but does not support secure boot, TPM 1.2 & unsupported processor.

Similar to the HP 350 G1, the Rufus utility was ineffective.  It reported a 'No secure boot' error and quit.

So, I had to use the handy workaround in the video for that too and is now running W11 24H2.

I will have to use the video workaround for the other PC's I have left to update because some don't meet any of Microsoft's minimum hardware requirements, but they all have TPM 1.2 security devices.

Hopefully the video workaround will also work on those with no UEFI BIOS'

So, the good news is one way or the other, you can get W11 24H2 to install on any PC via an in-place upgrade that has a UEFI BIOS.

I'm kind of worn out from doing this over the last night and a few hours today, so when I get around to trying to upgrade an older PC such as my HP 8000 Elite that does not have a UEFI BIOS and only a TPM 1.2 security device, I'll post back with those results.

Cheers,

Paul