Ram Latency Compatibility

[Kiotsegeo]

Hello, I want to upgrade my ram to better latency and 2 modules than one which i have right now. As i have seen in my motherboard specs page, my system can support 2666mhz ram ddr4 and two modules, but nothing mentioned about cas latency. My stock ram is one stick of 16gb ddr4 with 2666mhz and 19 Cas latency, the ram i want to upgrade is two identical sticks with the same mhz(2666) and 15 Cas latency. Will my system accept better latency to have some profit from new ram or will run in the same timings as stock?

My system is TG01-0018nv with 8653 motherboard with intel h370 chip. Thank you.

[krzemien]

I don't believe it will work for you at all - at best memory will just settle for the values as currently supported by the HP MoBO (which - I'm guessing - are fixed as they cannot be adjusted in BIOS). At worst, this will just not work for you at all.

Sorry.

[Kiotsegeo]

So i guess i should change mobo  to fix this timings manually since hp dont care to bring this posibility at least to her gaming desktop in bios settings.

[krzemien]

You are up for another disappointment here I'm afraid: HP systems are non-standard and you will not be able to install standard ATX MoBo in your case - at least easily.

https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c06432435

Form Factor

• Customized
• Dimensions: 29.09 x 20.3 cm (11.45 x 7.99 in)

You'll be better off assembling new PC from the scratch.

So there's inevitable question coming: Is this really that important to you - squeezing additional single %s rather than enjoying the ride?

[Kiotsegeo]

I already thought it that if i want to change mobo, i should change pc case + buy a new copy of windows 10 cause windows key is embedded in mobo.

[Kiotsegeo]

Its not that i'm not enjoying my pc, but if i want to take it to the next level i should upgrade some stuff from stock now or later. It's innevitable i'm afraid.

[krzemien]

No, I get that, noting wrong with it.

But!

HP is kind-of closed architecture, and for reason.

You're able to change CPU, expand RAM, swap SSD/HDD etc. easily as long as you remain within the boundaries as dictated by MoBo specification - these components are usually the ones where you feel the biggest increase in speed and responsiveness.

The same can be said about GPU in general but then choices will be limited by its size and power consumption. NB please note that it won't be easy to swap PSU either as HP uses proprietary connectors. So worth thinking if it makes sense at all.

Anything more - in my opinion at least - is asking to get yourself in trouble and it's much easier just to start assembling your own PC instead.

Please note however that HP PCs cannot be beaten when their price is considered - you get no-so-bad nice rig for not very high price either. Assembled PC using like-for-like components will be definitely more expensive - and that's HP's advantage.

Alas! How old is your PC - hasn't it been just released quite recently? What's the urge here?

[Kiotsegeo]

You covered me in most of the things you said and the price was the main reason i got this pc and not builded my own from the beginning! I didn't knew it was hard to find a psu that fits in case of upgrade my gpu, so this bring me to the only sollution of changing my pc case with mobo and all that needs but i can keep my cpu, gpu and other stuff.

[krzemien]

The only thing I can add is this: I got my Omen 3 years ago and besides adding another stick of 8GB RAM and swapping original 128GB SSD with 256GB one upfront then, and changing again OS SSD to 512GB just recently and adding another NVMe 512 GB SSD that replaced by HDD storing my data this chappy still goes strong and was/is virtually trouble-free.

The last thing I will do is to swap i5 with i7 CPU - when I eventually get one for the price I like. And that hopefully should keep me up and running for another few years of happy computing at which point I will start considering replacement - which may be another HP although I have some reservations.

I do not do gaming these days however - it's just nice-looking boring home PC - and also have grown up from all sorts of benchmarking, speed-chasing, modding etc. I cherish stability...

Food for thought.

[Kiotsegeo]

Propably you're right, thank you for your advise. 🙂