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10-19-2018 01:16 AM
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Since upgrading my 610-1100UK to Windows 10 I am seeing a lot of 100% CPU usage. Because of this I want to upgrade the processor.
I understand from the upgrade options (https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-touchsmart-610-1100-desktop-pc-series/5080777/model/5136751/...) that a i7-8xx processor is an upgrade option for the motherboard. I current has an i3-550 processor. I installed an i7-860 and only get 2 beeps followed by repeating 3 beeps at startup.
It appears that the reason that it is not working is that the i7 does not have an integrated GPU while the i3 does.
My question is if there is a way to make the i7-860 work with my machine and if so what is needed, if not what other processor would work to upgrade.
Thank for any advice.
Peter
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10-19-2018 03:38 PM - edited 10-19-2018 03:40 PM
Hi, @Willits
You are correct. The Intel first generation quad core i5 and i7 processors require a discrete graphics card.
In order to use the processor you bought, you would have to install a MXM form factor graphics card and heatsink for the card.
Unfortunately, the parts list for your model PC does not show any optional graphics cards.
http://partsurfer.hp.com/Search.aspx?searchText=LN486EA
I found this 610-1100 model which lists the HP part number you need for the MXM graphics card, but not the heat sink.
http://partsurfer.hp.com/Search.aspx?type=PROD&SearchText=QN716AA
Even if you were able to find all of the necessary parts, you may have an issue finding a driver that will work on W10.
Sometimes you can manually install the latest graphics driver from the support page but that is not guaranteed to work, and rarely can you use the drivers from the card manufacturer's website for the MXM cards.
IMO, you should put the i7 processor up for sale on eBay, and get the best dual core processor you can, which would be the i5-680.
https://ark.intel.com/products/48504/Intel-Core-i5-680-Processor-4M-Cache-3-60-GHz-
10-19-2018 05:25 AM
all you need is a really really high power microscope and some equipment to remove the metal heat spreader from the cpu and then somehow add the microscopic GPU circuitry to the i7-8xx series cpu (which was never designed with GPU support) childs play right? "NOT!!"
it never ceases to amaze me what people will ask.....................
willits, please spend some time reading on how CPU's are made and you will then have a fairly good idea on just why your request is never going to be something that anyone but the cpu maker/foundry can do only at the time they design the cpu
it's not something that can be added on at a later time
check the HP quickspecs for your model for a list of approved CPU's, if you install a cpu not on the list it may not work even if it has embedded graphics
you might (and i say might) be able to use a i7-860 (95 watts) if the system can cope with the increased thermals of this chip as opposed to the i3-550 73 watts
however, this upgrade will not really increase performance by a noticable amount unless your software can make use of two more cores
my recomendatation is to save your money and put it to a system replacement and not buy all in one systems as they have very limited expandability
10-19-2018 03:38 PM - edited 10-19-2018 03:40 PM
Hi, @Willits
You are correct. The Intel first generation quad core i5 and i7 processors require a discrete graphics card.
In order to use the processor you bought, you would have to install a MXM form factor graphics card and heatsink for the card.
Unfortunately, the parts list for your model PC does not show any optional graphics cards.
http://partsurfer.hp.com/Search.aspx?searchText=LN486EA
I found this 610-1100 model which lists the HP part number you need for the MXM graphics card, but not the heat sink.
http://partsurfer.hp.com/Search.aspx?type=PROD&SearchText=QN716AA
Even if you were able to find all of the necessary parts, you may have an issue finding a driver that will work on W10.
Sometimes you can manually install the latest graphics driver from the support page but that is not guaranteed to work, and rarely can you use the drivers from the card manufacturer's website for the MXM cards.
IMO, you should put the i7 processor up for sale on eBay, and get the best dual core processor you can, which would be the i5-680.
https://ark.intel.com/products/48504/Intel-Core-i5-680-Processor-4M-Cache-3-60-GHz-
11-14-2018 02:51 AM
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the information. It is unfortunate that HP did not note this is the processor upgrade list. It certainly would have saved some time. All the same, I bought a i5-680 in place of the i7 and it works perfectly and there is a noticeable improvement in the operation over the original i3
Peter