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08-21-2023 10:33 PM
Is a Elite 8300 SFF motherboard better/faster than my 6305 pro SFF motherboard? Would it be worth changing to the 8300 board?
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08-24-2023 01:28 AM - edited 08-24-2023 01:31 AM
Well, I need to know some specifics, such as how are you fitting a GTX 1050 in an SFF case? Perhaps you are not using the case cover, or have you modified the case cover? Anyway, what worked for me a while ago is to keep the graphics card in your PCIe x16 slot, and by using a short PCIe x16 90-degrees extension cable, something like this: XT-XINTE PCIe 16X Graphics Card Extension Cable 90 Degree PCI-E Express | eBay:
What this should do (depends a little bit on how much clearance your graphics card allows) is to reroute your white PCIe x4 slot away from your overhanging graphics card, allowing you to install a PCIe x16 to M.2 NVMe SSD adapter.
If you can make your graphics card work on the white PCIe x4 slot, I would definitely try that. It is highly unlikely that your PC will assign 16 data-lanes to your GPU anyway.
Please be advised that even though you can use an M.2 NVMe SSD in your HP 8300 Elite as a fast storage drive (I did, see my HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF UserBenchMark performance link), sadly you cannot use it as a primary (boot) drive. From that perspective, you may just scratch the M.2 NVMe SSD idea, and get a quality SATA SSD (Samsung, etc.), as this will speed up things considerably.
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NonSequitur777
08-22-2023 12:19 AM - edited 08-22-2023 12:33 AM
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In my opinion: absolutely.
I happened to upgrade an HP Compaq Pro 6300 SFF to an HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF (see: Solved: Upgrading HP Elite 8300 SFF - HP Support Community - 8509911) and was very pleased with the outcome.
Frankly, even the fastest AMD processor as fitted in a Pro 6305, underperforms compared to Intel processors compatible in an Elite 8300 SFF (see: UserBenchmark: AMD A10-6800K APU (2013 D.Ri) vs Intel Core i7-3770K). With an Elite 8300 SFF you can upgrade up to an Intel i7-3770K, which still to this day, when paired with a decent graphics card, etc. does very well with gaming.
Not to brag, but this upgraded rig still holds the UserBenchMark record: HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF Performance Results - UserBenchmark.
Hope this was helpful.
Kind Regards,
NonSequitur777
08-23-2023 10:48 PM - edited 08-23-2023 11:20 PM
Thank you for your help with my first build. OK, I swapped in a 8300 board w/ i7-3770, 32Gb Kingston HyperX DDR3 RAM, MSI GTX 1050 GPU, and fan upgrade to a AUB0912VH. Hope to get your opinion on this - I was intending to use a M.2 NVME SSD to PCIe 4.0/3.0 x4 Adapter in the x4 slot (claimed 5x faster than SATA SSD), but the GTX 1050 in the x16 slot overhung the x4 slot. The 1050 would fit in x4 and SSD in x16, or should I just go with a HDD to SATA SSD conversion, 1050 in x16 slot and leave out the M.2 adapter SSD ? Thank you, bob
08-24-2023 01:28 AM - edited 08-24-2023 01:31 AM
Well, I need to know some specifics, such as how are you fitting a GTX 1050 in an SFF case? Perhaps you are not using the case cover, or have you modified the case cover? Anyway, what worked for me a while ago is to keep the graphics card in your PCIe x16 slot, and by using a short PCIe x16 90-degrees extension cable, something like this: XT-XINTE PCIe 16X Graphics Card Extension Cable 90 Degree PCI-E Express | eBay:
What this should do (depends a little bit on how much clearance your graphics card allows) is to reroute your white PCIe x4 slot away from your overhanging graphics card, allowing you to install a PCIe x16 to M.2 NVMe SSD adapter.
If you can make your graphics card work on the white PCIe x4 slot, I would definitely try that. It is highly unlikely that your PC will assign 16 data-lanes to your GPU anyway.
Please be advised that even though you can use an M.2 NVMe SSD in your HP 8300 Elite as a fast storage drive (I did, see my HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF UserBenchMark performance link), sadly you cannot use it as a primary (boot) drive. From that perspective, you may just scratch the M.2 NVMe SSD idea, and get a quality SATA SSD (Samsung, etc.), as this will speed up things considerably.
Kind Regards,
NonSequitur777
08-24-2023 06:02 PM
Thank you for sharing your extensive knowledge, NonSequitur777. I encountered a lot of contradictory information, trying to determine the most economical 6305 gaming build with the maximum performance capability. The GTX 1050 I have is the Low Profile Series for the SFF case. I had read that the M.2 NVMe SSD was the ultimate performance, but that the GPU needed the x16 slot for maximum performance. I went with your suggestion, and swapped the HDD to a SSD. With 32Gb of RAM, deleting the M.2 NVMe SSD may not make a difference? Thank you, bob
08-24-2023 07:33 PM
You are welcome, glad I could assist.
The reason why skipping an M.2 NVMe SSD on your PC is not going to make much of a difference, like I mentioned in my previous post, is that you cannot make an M.2 NVMe SSD your primary (boot) drive in either an HP 8300, 6300, or 6305 desktops. Storage drive, yes, but that is not going to make much of a difference in gaming, or just about anything else you plan to do on your desktop.
You are correct: an M.2 NVMe SSD does provide the ultimate storage performance, but since you can't make that performance work as your primary (boot) drive, it really doesn't affect your overall PC performance. I hope this makes sense.
Kind Regards,
NonSequitur777
08-31-2023 12:19 PM
Pc is upgraded (HP6305 to 8300), new windows 10 Pro 64 bit installed, and I have the dreaded, " Ethernet Doesn't Have a Valid IP Configuration". I think I have tried most of the, "fixes" (that didn't fix it) that I found online. I have manually entered the IP and server addresses. Adapter status claims the board is working properly. When (as admin.) I try to do a release/flush/reset on command prompt, I get - "the operation failed,as no adapter is in the state permissible for this operation". My ethernet is fine, as my business PC (I am now on) on the same connection has no problem. Hoping someone has experience with the solution to this. Thank you, bob