HP Product cannot support Windows 11

[GuitarG]

I have an HP Envy All in One. Product 23-d135ea running on Windows 10 (W10). It has run without any problems for 8 years.

I have run the Microsoft Health  to check for compatability with Windows 11 (W11).  Was disappointed to be informed that the All in One's processor will not run W11 and that it also needs TPM. . The machine is running an Intel Core I3-3220 CPU @ 3.3ghz Can I have the existing processor upgraded to a processor compatible  set with W11 or do I have to live with W10 until  support  is terminated by Microsoft.

Thank You

Guitar G

[WAWood · Accepted solution]

@GuitarG 

HP All-in-Ones are basically huge laptops with external mice and keyboards -- and like laptops, the processors are not socketed and can not be upgraded.

So no, this is not going to install Windows 11.

Some folks here might advise you (wrongly) to force the Win11 install and run it anyway. But -- this is an "experiment" at best, not a long-term solution.

Let me explain ...

MS has relented, for now, in enforcing Win11 hardware requirements -- but they already have the code to check hardware because they provide that as a downloadable utility.  It would take little effort to package that as a Security Update, push it to the PCs, and after a reboot, we get messages that our PCs are disabled and we have to reinstall Win10 from scratch to get a working PC back.

I'm OK because I have a full image backup of the laptop running Windows 10 -- which would take me 5 minutes to restore. Most folks don't even know what that means and will end up with a nonworking PC -- and no simple way to restore it.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi, @GuitarG 

Actually, the processor in your specific AIO PC can be upgraded, but it would do you no good since the PC only supports up to an Intel 3rd gen core processor, and Microsoft drew the line at the 8th gen core processors.

Windows processor requirements Windows 11 supported Intel processors | Microsoft Docs

If you want to install W11 on your PC as it is, it is pretty easy to do...

I would make a system image of your current W10 installation prior to updating to W11, so you can easily reinstall W10 in the future.  I used the free Macrium Reflect software to do that, under the Backup at Home section. 

Along with the system image, make sure you create the bootable DVD or USB rescue drive you boot from to access the system image stored on your portable hard drive.

Macrium Software | Reflect Free Edition

First make this registry change...

https://www.hellpc.net/how-to-bypass-tpm-and-cpu-requirements-windows-11-upgrade-unsupported-pc/

Then download the Windows 11 ISO file (3rd option), not the W11 installation assistant.

Download Windows 11 (microsoft.com)

Use Rufus and make a bootable USB installer with the ISO file you downloaded.

There is a new option to create an installer that is supposed to bypass the W11 hardware checks. 

After you make the installer, open the file contents, and double click on the setup application, and see if you can get the in-place upgrade like I was able to.

If for some reason, W11 won't let you do the in-place upgrade, you can clean install W11 with the Rufus-created installation media.

Here is the link to the Rufus download.  You want the version 3.17 portable.

Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way

Here is a screenshot for how you should let Rufus set up the ISO file...

You just have to accept the agreement that comes up during the upgrade process about your PC not meeting the requirements, etc., etc..

My unsupported W11 PC's got all of the W11 updates. 

I have upgraded 7 of them to W11, and they seem to run a little better on W11 than they did on W10.

However, I don't know how long they will continue to get all of the updates, or what will happen when the new build of W11 comes out next year in October.

I will rightfully continue to provide assistance to anyone who wants to upgrade their PC's to W11, since I have provided a way to go back to W10 and the caveat that Microsoft may end support for W11 on unsupported PC's at any time.

[itsmyname]

@GuitarG --  It has run without any problems for 8 years.

It probably will continue to run without problems until the "sunset" of Windows 10 in October 2025.

By then, your disk-drive will be an "antique". I would be proactive, and replace the 8-year-old disk-drive, if I wanted to keep using the computer for four more years. Plus, an upgrade to a SSD will speed-up your computer.  🙂

[Prométhée]

Read all the documents, websites, that can talk about this new update.
I would give some tips at the end of this message
As you have been told so well, if your computer is working fine, leave it alone!
for having tried it, I can tell you, that it will not bring you much.
Your computer, not being 100% compatible by far, you will not be able to take advantage of most of the functions of windows 11
Clearly, it hardly brings you anything interesting, if you do not have the necessary equipment.
And just because it works with some doesn't mean that it will for you too.
You may be wasting time for nothing
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Hello
[This is an automatic response
so i don't have to repeat everything
Some indications can be changed, and some may not be useful to you, I can not always adapt the answer!]

the official version of windows 11 at the time of writing this answer has not yet been released, unless I'm mistaken!
Don't rush, any new version has these problems, wait at least a little bit before you start
Check everywhere if there are problems after installation or not!
For tpm 2.0, there are many sites that are starting to talk about it.
You can start by checking the general compatibility with the microsoft tool

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11
https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp
another tool given by the expert @WAWood gives more information (thanks to him for this find
https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases

for TPM 2.0 to be activated with bios uefi, if it is possible
"In the search box or with the Windows + R key combination, we type tpm.msc."

look at the bottom, where the TPM version is shown. If we see version 2.0, our computer should be compatible with Windows 11 in this section.
source:
https://www.netcost-security.fr/guides/guides-tech/27213/comment-activer-tpm-2-0-et-secure-boot-pour...
possibly check for product updates
>update
hi
I read that it would be more or less possible to add a module, but nothing concrete, nothing found for the moment
The security module, being generally integrated into the processor, there is no way to change this for many computers, incompatible processors!

https://www.pcmag.com/news/what-is-a-tpm-and-why-do-i-need-one-for-windows-11
The requirements for windows 11 may change, in the meantime avoid spending unnecessary money.
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/06/28/update-on-windows-11-minimum-system-requirement...
hp official link
https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_4300937-4295746-16
[edit]update
I don't know if we can find it in English
There is something new, still a little confused, but it seems, that the requirements are still changed
There would still be certain conditions, not too uninteresting in the end if it stays like that!
The link is translated here, I don't know if it will be clear, but in the main line it should be understandable!

translate.googlews Windows 11: your PC will be able to install it, but there is .. 

update :
https://www.theverge.com/22644194/microsoft-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-processors-change...
https://docs.microsoft.com/fr-fr/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-inte...
https://docs.microsoft.com/fr-fr/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-amd-....
As we can see in the previous link, it may be possible to install windows 11 even if the processor is not supported

update

there is the return of the microsoft check app
once downloaded and launched the scan, the result is given, for compatibility
that gives (french sorry)

if you click on specifications, a microsoft page appears

Prepare yourselves

Windows 11 isn't here yet, but will be available later this year. If you are looking forward to it, you can already do some preparations.

This PC will run Windows 11

Your PC meets the minimum hardware requirements and is eligible for a free upgrade when deploying the new Windows.

[edit]
ready ?
Download Windows 11
There are 3 options below for installing or creating Windows 11 media. Check out each one to determine the best option for you.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

HP PCs - Upgrading to Windows 11 using Windows Update | HP® Customer Support

HP PCs - Installing Windows 11 from a USB flash drive | HP® Customer Support

[edit]
To better understand, I tried the installation
The computer being "compatible", and offered in update with windows update
Be careful, because I haven't seen anyone mentioned this
I have a 256gb drive, there was quite a bit of space left, but during the upgrade the drive turned red.
Although I install many games on my Data player!
So I was forced to sacrifice some programs to avoid problems
information which seems to me to be quite important, take care of the available space (I had at least half of it free, if not more)!

[GuitarG]

THanks for this will bear in mind. Think I will watch and wait for next couple of months then look to plan a changeover to W11 but by purchasing a new device be it a lap top . 

Appreciate your contribution

Cheers

Guitar G

[GuitarG]

Holding off for the time being so taking your advice.  Appreciate your resonse. I do wonder how many users there are world wide in the same predicament.

Thanks

Guitar G

[GuitarG]

Response noted and thank you for guidance and advice. No immediate problem and will plan a course of action as time goes on.  Appreciate your input.

Cheers

Guitar G

[GuitarG]

Thank You for the response. Will bear in mind and hold off for the time being. 

Cheers

Guitar G