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11-27-2024 11:04 AM
A friend gave me an HP Pavilion All-in-One, Model 24-b017c. I've worked on computers for over 30 years and, when I get a device like this, I try to repurpose it in case I find someone who can't afford a computer but would like one.
I have one question: does anyone know for sure that it will support Windows 11? When I pulled it apart, I found it had a 5.25" mechanical hard drive (dated 6-16).
According to AI, it will support Windows 11. Before I find an SSD drive and adapter, I was wondering if anyone is actually running Windows 11 on a machine like this. I don't want to force Windows 11 on it if it doesn't meet the specifications for Windows ... if find someone who needs it, I don't want them to have any issues.
Thanks.
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11-27-2024 02:02 PM - edited 11-27-2024 02:11 PM
You're very welcome, Dave.
The only minor downside to installing W11 on unsupported hardware that can't be gotten around is that when you do in-place upgrades (which most of us would want to do), you have to go through these procedures every October after Microsoft releases the next build of W11(25H2?).
You can always clean install W11 every year but then that requires reinstalling the programs, drivers and personal files again.
So, here are two methods to use:
I use the first one for in-place upgrades from W10 > W11 only, and the second one can also be used for in-place upgrades as well as clean installs.
I have found that the first method has worked 100% of the time on my PC's for in-place upgrades, and the second method around 80% of the time for in-place upgrades.
1st method: Watch the video...
How to install Windows 11 24H2 on Unsupported PC (Early Access) 2024 (youtube.com)
Download the W24H2 ISO file and use that (3rd option).
Download Windows 11 (microsoft.com)
You can download the free 7-Zip file utility from the link below. The top line is for 64 bit.
2nd method:
Follow the instructions for how to do an in-place upgrade.
I only check the first two options on the bypass instructions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Hg866SJI0&t=3s
Here's the link to the Rufus download website:
I use the portable version.
Set the Rufus partition scheme to GPT, not MBR since your PC shold have secure boot enabled with the BIOS in UEFI mode (which was the default BIOS setting).
Your PC's processor supports SSE 4.2 and POPCNT.
Once again...You'll have to repeat either procedure each October when Microsoft rolls out the new builds because a PC that does not meet Microsoft's minimum W11 hardware requirements will never automatically get the update to the next build.
Other than that, your PC will continue to get the monthly cumulative and other updates just like any other PC that is fully supported to run W11 does.
Of course, there is no requirement to update to the next build, but Microsoft only supports each W11 build for 2 years with the cumulative updates and whatnot.
But that will extend operating support for W11 24H2 into October of 2026 instead of support ending for W10 in October of 2025.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-11-home-and-pro
11-27-2024 12:24 PM - edited 11-27-2024 12:24 PM
The processor does not meet Microsoft's minimum W11 hardware requirements of needing an Intel 8th gen core or newer and the motherboard does not support an upgrade to that series of processors.
If you decide to change your mind about bypassing the W11 hardware requirements to install W11, let me know because there are two very easy ways to do it.
I am running W11 24H2 on no less than a dozen different HP and Dell notebook and desktop PCs, some much older than that (with Intel 1st, 2nd and 4th gen core processors).
The closest one I have to the i5-6400T processor the PC you have is an 800 G3 DM with an i5-6500T processor.
W11 works just fine on that PC.
11-27-2024 12:55 PM
Thanks for the reply. I know there are ways to get around installing Windows 11 on a machine that doesn't meet the requirements., but I was concerned about upgrades, etc. after Windows 11 is installed.
If I continue, I'll probably give it to someone else and I don't want them to have issues (the people I donate to don't have the money for repairs, etc.).
If your way works, however, and you don't think it will cause future issues (I'm guessing you're not having any 🙂 ), then I would like to give your methods a try.
Thanks.
Dave
11-27-2024 02:02 PM - edited 11-27-2024 02:11 PM
You're very welcome, Dave.
The only minor downside to installing W11 on unsupported hardware that can't be gotten around is that when you do in-place upgrades (which most of us would want to do), you have to go through these procedures every October after Microsoft releases the next build of W11(25H2?).
You can always clean install W11 every year but then that requires reinstalling the programs, drivers and personal files again.
So, here are two methods to use:
I use the first one for in-place upgrades from W10 > W11 only, and the second one can also be used for in-place upgrades as well as clean installs.
I have found that the first method has worked 100% of the time on my PC's for in-place upgrades, and the second method around 80% of the time for in-place upgrades.
1st method: Watch the video...
How to install Windows 11 24H2 on Unsupported PC (Early Access) 2024 (youtube.com)
Download the W24H2 ISO file and use that (3rd option).
Download Windows 11 (microsoft.com)
You can download the free 7-Zip file utility from the link below. The top line is for 64 bit.
2nd method:
Follow the instructions for how to do an in-place upgrade.
I only check the first two options on the bypass instructions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Hg866SJI0&t=3s
Here's the link to the Rufus download website:
I use the portable version.
Set the Rufus partition scheme to GPT, not MBR since your PC shold have secure boot enabled with the BIOS in UEFI mode (which was the default BIOS setting).
Your PC's processor supports SSE 4.2 and POPCNT.
Once again...You'll have to repeat either procedure each October when Microsoft rolls out the new builds because a PC that does not meet Microsoft's minimum W11 hardware requirements will never automatically get the update to the next build.
Other than that, your PC will continue to get the monthly cumulative and other updates just like any other PC that is fully supported to run W11 does.
Of course, there is no requirement to update to the next build, but Microsoft only supports each W11 build for 2 years with the cumulative updates and whatnot.
But that will extend operating support for W11 24H2 into October of 2026 instead of support ending for W10 in October of 2025.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-11-home-and-pro
11-27-2024 08:03 PM
I've installed Windows 11 on unsupported devices before but was always leery about upgrades.
I'll give your method(s) a try.
Thanks again for taking the time to provide all the details. I really appreciate it.
Dave