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Lou-in-USA
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DVI port not working for second monitor.

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I was successfully using my Slimline Desktop 450-a114 with two monitors last year in the office, and when my company went to work at home, I brought the computer home but because of space, I only used one monitor. I'm now back in the office but I'm having a similar problem that I originally had when attempting to use the DVI-D port to support a second monitor.  I am using a two VGA monitors, but with a DVI-D adapter.  I have changed the monitors that I use on the DVI port, the other monitor used HDMI, so I had a DVI-D to HDMI adapter, and that worked well for years, but only after I installed the Intel HD Graphics Control Panel, and selected "Multiple Displays" in the display section. Anyway, neither the machine nor the software recognize that a monitor is plugged into the DVI-D port, and there are no display settings in the BIOS that address any integrated or or other video settings, and I'm at the end of ideas.

 

I am using the original OS (Windows 10) and since I only do email and spreadsheets, I haven't added any acceleration software.  Only Microsoft updates that are "pushed" have made any changes as far as I know.

 

One thought is, does DVI-D need positive feedback from the monitor to activate? Because this particular monitor goes to sleep after about 5 seconds if no video signal is present.

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So the the DVI-D > VGA "adapter" is NOT a converter !

I guess you can only use it if you want to use a VGA cable as an extension cable.

Why would you buy two DVI-D adapters just to use a VGA cable? I have no idea, but that is the only function these adapter can serve for as far as I can tell.

DVI-I is the port type that supports analog video, and you must have that type of port on your computer to use a VGA monitor with a DVI-I > VGA adapter.

The DVI-I has 4 pins around the flat spade connection, and those 4 pins are analog.

See the picture, the top two and the bottom style support analog, the other two DVI-D DO NOT.

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@Lou-in-USA -- if you hold-down the "Windows" key (bottom-left of your keyboard) and tap the "P" key, and release both keys, does Windows display a menu showing that you have 2 monitors attached?

 

Or, within Windows "Device Manager", does it list the two monitors?

 

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No, the Device Manager does not show a second monitor, but that was the case a few years ago, and that's what caused me to do some research, and  why I installed the Intel HD Graphics Control Panel, which did show I had two monitors; but for some reason now, even that software doesn't show I have a second monitor.  I tried Windows Key +P and I see that I can select duplicate, extend, etc. but nothing I select starts up the other screen, and "Second screen only" turns off the VGA output to my main screen.

 

The frustrating part is that this worked a year ago when I was in the office, the only thing that's different is the other monitor I had was HDMI, so I was using a DVI-D to HDMI adapter. I may have to bring the other monitor home to see if that activates the DVI port, but I don't know why that would make any difference.

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@Lou-in-USA --  I tried Windows Key +P and I see that I can select duplicate, extend, etc. but nothing I select starts up the other screen, and "Second screen only" turns off the VGA output to my main screen.

 

Hmm. The "duplicate" option should have done exactly that -- duplicate the primary display on the other display.

 

Does your second monitor also have VGA input? Can you connect its VGA-input to the VGA-output from your computer, to prove that the second monitor works?

 

Does your second monitor have multiple video-inputs (VGA? DVI? HMDI?).

You need to tell that monitor to "listen" to one of those inputs.

 

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No, the monitor I'm trying to use only has VGA, and I've checked that it works; the monitor at my office that last worked with this computer was only HDMI. But as I said, I am using the appropriate DVI-D adapter...and as far as I can tell, while there are several types of DVI adapters, none of them are interchangeable, and my VGA to DVI-D adapter has the same pin arrangement and fits perfectly,  just as the DVI-D to HDMI adapter I used last year.

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@Lou-in-USA -- is this your computer: HP Slimline 450-a114 Desktop PC Product Specifications | HP® Customer Support

 

That page states:  

 

Video Graphics

Integrated graphics

 

Integrated video is not available if a graphics card is installed


Integrated graphics: Intel HD Graphics

 

DVI and VGA output ports (can be used at the same time)

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So, can you borrow a monitor with DVI-input, and try it, with your VGA monitor also connected? If the monitor has multiple video-inputs, e.g., VGA & DVI & HDMI, be sure to tell the monitor to "listen" on the DVI  socket. If the monitor is "listening" on the wrong input, it probably will go "dark" after a few seconds.

 

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I agree, this is the way it should work, but it doesn't. I can only try my HDMI monitor from the office and see if the that is recognized.  If that works it may mean I have a faulty DVI>VGA adapter, since the DVI>HDMI worked fine when I last used it.

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OK, I hooked up the HDMI monitor with the other adapter I have and it works. So I guess something is wrong with the DVI-D >VGA adapter I bought. ...strange.

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******* SOLVED ******

So the the DVI-D > VGA "adapter" is NOT a converter !

I guess you can only use it if you want to use a VGA cable as an extension cable.

Why would you buy two DVI-D adapters just to use a VGA cable? I have no idea, but that is the only function these adapter can serve for as far as I can tell.

DVI-I is the port type that supports analog video, and you must have that type of port on your computer to use a VGA monitor with a DVI-I > VGA adapter.

The DVI-I has 4 pins around the flat spade connection, and those 4 pins are analog.

See the picture, the top two and the bottom style support analog, the other two DVI-D DO NOT.

54bdb2d5-1ff0-4d97-be4e-8f1aed4cc62f.jpg

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@Lou-in-USA --  the Intel HD Graphics Control Panel, which did show I had two monitors; but for some reason now, even that software doesn't show I have a second monitor. 

 

From HP's web-site: DVI and VGA output ports (can be used at the same time)

 

So, does that Intel H.D.G.C.P. show that your video-card has two video-output ports, or that you physically have two monitors?

 

 

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