8200 sff vs 6200 sff

[HPAlf]

Hi!
One general question. When someone ask me what Desktop system do You prefer ... at this very moment is my answer -- 8200 Elite. To keep it running ... 5-6 or even more years. But, why not 6200 sff ? Well, AMT (probably included KVM with i5 or i7, too) is there as well in 8200. vPro? As AMT is fully in 6200, probably is enough for me. From HP web page can't read any obvious reasons why not 6200 prefer to 8200, also for business, cheaper, truth. Seems to same parts included ... Yeah.
Any thoughts?
More thanks, Alar.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi, Alar:

I tend to agree with you. I don't see much of a difference between either SFF.

As a matter of fact, they even use the same BIOS, and have the same service manuals.

Here are links to the quickspecs for both PC's.

8200 Elite

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13879_na/13879_na.PDF

6200 Pro

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13880_na/13880_na.PDF

All I could find really is that the chipsets are different. The 8200 has a "better" chipset.

Paul

[HPAlf]

Hi and thanks, Paul!

Seems to so. Yes, chipset with vPro they claim is a difference, but I have one 6200 and at least AMT part of BIOS seems to be there as in 8200, not sure about KVM option, don't have any i5/i7 6200 at hand. Mh. And, why I ask - in our region there seems to be significant price-cap! Well, there must be something more why to prefer 8200 over 6200! If ever. Testing?

More thanks, Alar.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

You're very welcome, Alar.

I have the 8200 Elite CMT, which I purcahased last year as a "Smart Buy" PC for about $900 USD.

I am very happy with it.  It has the i7 2600, and I added a AMD Radeon 6570 1 GB Video card and 3 x 4 GB of PC3-10600 memory, which brought the memory to 16 GB as it already came with 1 x 4 GB.

I recently found out that you can install up to 32 GB of memory (4 x 8 GB) in the 8200 CMT and SFF.

See the below thread on that subject.

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware/RAM-upgrade-questions-for-Elite-8200-i7-Desktop-SFF-am...

I may max mine out in stages, as 2 x 8 GB of memory is around $100 USD.

I figure I would buy 2 x 8 GB and go to 24 GB and then in a couple months, add another 2 x 8 GB.  Maybe the prices will come down.

Regards,

Paul

[HPAlf]

Hi and thanks again!

So, You prefer 8200 over 6200 anyway? So do I, but, still, what clear advantages does 8200 series have over 6200 (AMT, also part of vPro, seems to same on both series)? I mean, why would I pay extra money? There should be some deeper insight.

-- 8200 --

The latest innovations combined with HP’s engineering excellence and new BIOS designs make the HP Compaq 8200 Elite Series the right choice for your business today and tomorrow.

-- 6200 --

Designed for maximum performance throughout its life, the HP Compaq 6200 Pro offers the right blend of features for everyday business computing requirements.

More thanks, Alar.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi, Alar:

I only bought the 8200 because I like the Convertible MIni Tower form factor.

I have always used HP business CMT desktops..d530, dc7100, dc7600, dc7800...and the 8200 Elite is the successor to those desktops.

You cannot get 6200 in the CMT form factor, only a MT format, and SFF.

I never buy SFF's because they are too hard to upgrade (especially the video).

If you think the 6200 will offer you the things you need for less money, then I would definitely go with the 6200.

Paul

[HPAlf]

Hi and thanks!

Well, exactly same here -- starting with Compaq (before HP) Desktop EN (different hardware versions), Evo D500, D510, d530, dc5000, dc5100, dc7100, dc7600, dc7700, dc7800, dc7900, 8100 Elite, 8200 Elite. 😃 My approach was and is -- we not so rich to buy cheap computers. And so far ... so good! I'm not sure 6200 is ... so good! But, truth is, obvious parameters is (almost) the same and it is cheaper! So, there (in 8200 Elite etc. should be something ...more?!

Btw. - still have at site two even Compaq Deskpro EN PIII (last white-colored) sff's!

Alar.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Wow!  I went as far back as the d510.

Had Dell Optiplexes before the d510.

Don't forget the 8000 Elite. 

[HPAlf]

Since 99 all Compaq/HP/s! Don't have any 8000, sorry to say. 😃

Well, ok, when any more thoughts about 8200 vs 6200, please let me know.

Alar.

[HPAlf]

Hi again!

I asked from HP.com about difference -- only things they replied was "different chipsets" and "more cases", which we can read out from web, anyway. Well. I checked about chipsets and seems to 6200 has Q65 and 8200 Q67 and 6300 Q75 and 8300 Q77. What the difference -- neither Q65 or Q75 should have AMT inside, but ... seems to me 6200 Pro at hand I have here (only one) have AMT on board, I'm connected to it this very moment. Probably I missed something. At least in terminology -- all should have Active Management Technology. Anyway, have anyone experiences with 6200 i5 or i7 processor, have these KVM (Keyboard, Video and Mouse) option? If 6200/6300 does not have AMT (including KVM option) ... well, it makes difference for me and this money for 8200/8300 (instead of 6200/6300) could be spent well. 😃

More thanks, Alar.