Kaili MS-7826 Intel Z87 - SATA SSD versus mSATA SSD

[HPENVY700-230QE]

Are you conceding that if a 1TB mSATA SSD is installed in the mSATA port, the system could be made to boot from the mSATA SSD with a transfer rate of 6 GB/s  ?

[Big_Dave]

Hi,

I not conceding anything or claiming that it's even possible to boot from the mSATA slot.  That seems to be your mantra.  If you want to try then go for it and post your results.

BTW---The SATA III 6 Gb/s speed is theoritical and you would be lucky to hit 80% of that number.

[Jccr510]

Hello,

I just came across this thread and noticed how the other person said that this motherboard did not have a m-SATA slot when it clearly shows in the picture so I was wondering how you said that its primary use is only as a chacing function, but I was wondering if it could also be used as a primary drive. Mine has a 16gb, but was wondering if I could install a 1tb and make it a primary bootable device. Would that be possible?

[HPENVY700-230QE]

Two different people other than yourself, responded to the post.  The first person to respond alleged there was no mSata slot, but is clearly wrong as you noticed.

The second person to reply made arrogant and unsupported allegations.

In the end, rather than expeiment at my cost, I purchased a standard 1 TB Samsung 840 EVO and placed it on port zero on a standard SATA slot,  but not in the mSata slot. 

Within a month I learned that there is a systemic defect in the EVO series and hopefully a firmware update will be posted by Samsung very soon.  More about the issue can be seen at:

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Editorial/Samsung-840-840-EVO-susceptible-flash-read-speed-degradation-...

http://www.myce.com/news/samsungs-tlc-nand-840-evo-ssds-affected-by-bug-firmware-update-near-72798/

In your case, it seems you machine is using a 16GB mSATA as cache.   I don't think you can run the mSATA as cache and boot at the same time due to a setting in the BIOS, but I may be wrong.   Also, the mSATA use may preclude your installation of a second SSD in a standard SATA slot.  Again I'm not certain but arrived at this conclusion on my own machine based on the way HP has set up option selections in the online store.  The options didn't allow both.

Good Luck.

[Jccr510]

You're right. I feel like sometimes people just guess solutions. But I really hope Samsung is working on a firmware so you can fix your issue with you SSD.

As far as my concern, I contacted HP directly, and actually twice to confirm, and also double checked with a PC repair shop and they in fact told me that I can use the mSATA slot as my default bootable device, that I just have to arrange it in bios as my primary bootable device. But they told me that the 1tb would run around $400 which I already knew. But they also pointed the fact that the boot up time would be the same as I have right now which is pretty fast, that I would just have the extra space which is what I'm looking for.

[Big_Dave]

Hi,

The Samsung 840 EVO performance restoration software has been posted.

[HPENVY700-230QE]

The needed firmware update has not been posted.  The last firmware update posted for 840 EVO indicates Dec. '13 which predates the recent discovery of the problem and acknowledgement of the problem by Samsung.

[HPENVY700-230QE]

On the speed comparison, maybe, but not likely.

[HPENVY700-230QE]

My appologies.  The update was not placed under firmware updates.  It has it's own category apparently.  Thank you for the information.

[Big_Dave]

Hi,

I hope the Samsung Restoration software and the embeded BIOS update solves your issues.  I have yet to try this software on my three Samsung EVO SSDs.