Beats Audio EQ Setting/ General Sound Advice

[Sanchin420]

I have the pavilion dv7 -6c21nr with Beats Audio.  I have read many posts and found them insightful and helped me tremendously. However, I cannot seem to find a post that explains the "white slider" side of beats audio, how to set them, and what is each slider for.  If you could explain what each does and what it represents to music in the same detail as you did for the standard EQ frequencies, I will forever be in your debt.

Thank You

[bhallg2k]

From what I can tell, the "white sliders" in Beats Audio control the "Enhancements" found in Control Panel for your audio device.

Control Panel>Sound>[highlight your device]>Properties>Enhancements.

Each enhancement provides a description of what it does. I've found that I get the best sound when I tick "Disable all enhancements."  They're novel ideas for a computer, but ones that would be best left for hardware, not software, an implementation that basically just corrupts the signal chain as far as I'm concerned.

It really seems to me that Beats Audio is nothing more than an equalizer and a gateway to the options found in Control Panel.  Disable Beats, and you'll find that the bass slider in "Tone Controls" - found right next to "Enhancements" - is fully lowered.  Enable Beats and the bass slider jumps back to the top.

I never use Beats.  Any audio program you use will likely have a better implemention of EQ, and everything else that Beats controls can be managed in Control Panel without adding another needless link in the chain.

My humble advice: with decent headphones or speakers, disable as much as you can for a much cleaner sound.  While it will never hold a candle to even mid-range audio gear, the sound hardware, at least in my Envy, is really quite good relative to other laptops.  There's no need to let software get in the way of that.

[J_Viper]

I have a dv6t, i listen to pop, hip hop & house, such as Chris Brown, Pitbull, David Guetta, Afrojack, Lil' Wayne, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, LMFAO, Wiz Khalifa, etc.

I need help setting up my bass from 31 Hz to 250 Hz having the exact settings you put at the beginning. I want the highest amount of bass possible without interfering with clarity and the vocals, also without distorting, blurring, or reducing the tone.

I have JVC Stereo Headphones HA-S360 and I am buying a Beats Pro very soon.

I would really appreciate it if someone could help me as soon as possible. Thanks.

[bhallg2k]

If you want "the highest amount of bass possible without interfering with clarity and the vocals, also without distorting, bluring, or reducing the tone," stay away from anything Beats.  Beats headphones are a bass-heavy, muddy mess that cost waaay too much money.

Try out the Audio-Technica ATH-M50 or the Shure SRH-840 or 940 or the Sony MDR-7520 or the AKG K702.  None of these are more expensive than Beats Pro  - some are quite cheaper - but each will positively embarrass the Beats Pro in comparison.

Beats are a name and a logo, nothing more.

As far as Beats Audio settings on your HP, I find that Beats Audio sounds best when it's disabled.

[bhallg2k]

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[bhallg2k]

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@miler347 wrote:

See my post ... If U want bass, then uninstall the audio driver/codec, and install an earlier version of it that does NOT contain Beats Audio. Beats Audio is designed to allow a "flat" response: which is basically NOT allowing hi or low frequencies.

I have an Omni 220qd .... I kept playing a bass heavy song (Rack City), & realizing I was NOT hearing any of the powerful bass inherent in the song. I played the exact same song on 2 other computers WITHOUT Beats Audio, and 2 different mp3 players, using the SAME SPEAKERS, and HEARD THE BASS & EVERY OTHER FREQUENCY in the song. So I uninstalled the audio driver/codec (the Beats Audio is contained in it), and installed a much earlier version of the audio driver/codec that does NOT contain Beats Audio, & voila: IMMEDIATELY heard BASS, TREBLE, & EVERY frequency.

I have also tested a Beats Audio in-ear headphone, and it does NOT allow hi or low frequencies to be heard.

Test it out for yourself .... play your favorite songs from your laptop that has Beats Audio set to highest of hi frequencies, & low on the lowest ... then play them on a device without Beats Audio, so you can prove for yourself.. You can see that it's a VERY SIMPLE test.

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A flat response is ideal.  In fact, a truly flat response is the holy grail to audiophiles.

A bass-heavy frequency response tends to overwhelm mids and highs, and a response that emphasizes high-range frequencies tends to produce resonance that eliminates virtually any chance of hearing full-bodied, clear bass tones.

Aside from being tasked to do things that no piece of software will ever do well, Beats Audio actually aims to remove a flat response in favor of bass tones.

That's why uninstalling Beats Audio had such a profound effect.   You now have a flat response.

The only way make clean adjustments to tone one way or the other is to do so with good hardware.  Otherwise, it's best to remove as many obstacles as possible between the source of the music and your ears.

[J_Viper]

i already know the audio-technica and the sony one ur talking about, but i dont really have a problem with lack of highs. all i need is a good bass like the beats headlines are designed for (rap, techno, etc.), noise isolation, and no loss of vocal volume (not necessarily its clarity) and i think i worded that wrong. beats is definitely what i need, especially when i can afford it. i have tested all of their headphones (except the executives) and the pros and the detox are exactly what i am looking for (though the only difference between them is the color). i have sennheisers as well and they sound great, but not the exact balance that i am looking for. also the beats audio for me is being great so far, for the main reason i got it is because i was not satisfied with the audio within the actual computer itself.

regardless, so far i have found a nice equalization full of bass with beats audio for the dv6t:

White part: bass (100), def. (30), center (50), space (50), focus (50)

Red part: 31 Hz (+15), 62 Hz (+3), 125 Hz (+2), 250 Hz (0), 500 Hz (+2), 1 kHz (+3), 2 kHz (+3), 6 kHz (+4), 10 kHz (+10)

(Note: this is for extreme bass only, and tested with hip-hop/rap songs. highs might not be evident)

[bhallg2k]

I gathered that you were looking for something with a ton of bass, and my headphone recommendations reflected that.  Each one I listed outperforms Beats Pros in every category, including bass.  For the money you'd spend on a pair of Beats Pros, you could get the Audio-Technicas (bass you can feel) and a decent DAC (digital to analog converter)/headphone amp combo that will leave blisters on your ears.  And you'd still have money left over.

What you won't get, however, is that red B.  Monster counts on image-conscious people to pay premium prices for the "honor" of wearing a B on their head.

Does it not strike you as odd that Beats doesn't publish even basic empirical measurements for their headphones?

[JacodaBurr]

Thank you so much for your help. It was a little fun trying to tweak these settings especially since I mostly use surround sound with my DV6. I wanted to say thanks for your post and give my levels that I ended up deciding on in which I am pretty content with the sound.

31Hz -1

65Hz -3

125Hz -14

250Hz -5

500Hz 2

1kHz 3

2kHz 3

6kHz 5

10kHz -5

Thanks again, I really like how I can hear everything now and not just bass or vocals.

[tazmo8448]

Let me get this straight...uninstall the IDT\Codec driver on my ( 2010 ) dv7 to disable the Beats driver and upload or install an earlier driver without Beats and it will cure the sound isssues in the EQ portion of adjusting sound...which leads me to the question of will there be an EQ in the older\earlier version?

This is in response to

miler347 wrote:

See my post ... If U want bass, then uninstall the audio driver/codec, and install an earlier version of it that does NOT contain Beats Audio. Beats Audio is designed to allow a "flat" response: which is basically NOT allowing hi or low frequencies.

I have an Omni 220qd .... I kept playing a bass heavy song (Rack City), & realizing I was NOT hearing any of the powerful bass inherent in the song. I played the exact same song on 2 other computers WITHOUT Beats Audio, and 2 different mp3 players, using the SAME SPEAKERS, and HEARD THE BASS & EVERY OTHER FREQUENCY in the song. So I uninstalled the audio driver/codec (the Beats Audio is contained in it), and installed a much earlier version of the audio driver/codec that does NOT contain Beats Audio, & voila: IMMEDIATELY heard BASS, TREBLE, & EVERY frequency.

I have also tested a Beats Audio in-ear headphone, and it does NOT allow hi or low frequencies to be heard.

Test it out for yourself .... play your favorite songs from your laptop that has Beats Audio set to highest of hi frequencies, & low on the lowest ... then play them on a device without Beats Audio, so you can prove for yourself.. You can see that it's a VERY SIMPLE test.