Win 11 Compatibility Omen X Systems

[HawkeEye]

I am a bit confused about the Win 11 update.  I have both an OMEX X desktop and an OMEN X laptop. 

Both  have the TPM 2.0 chips enabled, both meet every listed hardware requirement. 

BOTH SHOW AS NOT COMPATIBLE FOR UPGRADE TO WIN 11

So what gives?  Did HP use motherboards with missing features?

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Hi:

As shown in your screenshot, the processor does not meet the requirements to run W11.

Below is the list of supported Intel processors for W11.  For the Intel core processor series the processor has to be 8th gen or newer.

Windows processor requirements Windows 11 supported Intel processors | Microsoft Docs

[HawkeEye]

So I assume my desktop is in that same category

If a system of this size cannot make the transition then HP/Microsoft have embarked on a PC replacement project and not a software upgrade.  This would be reminiscent of the 1980s and 1990s where just about every software upgrade required more power in transition.  But neither of these systems lacks capacity, and only the processor is at issue.  HP and Microsoft can make them compatible, they have just chosen not to I assume.  If an i9 dodeca core processor cannot make the transition then this is a hardware sales effort alone.

[HawkeEye]

Forgot, this i9 shows in the compatibility list of processors.

[Paul_Tikkanen]

It is a zero PC manufacturer issue, 100% Microsoft issue.

I am running the latest W11 build on an old HP 8200 Elite CMT business desktop PC.

I only buy the business class model PC's because they last for ages.

The 8200 Elite has an Intel i7-2600 processor, 32 GB of memory, TPM 1.2 device, SSD, Nvidia GT 1030, UEFI BIOS, but does not support secure boot and it works great on W11. 

As good if not better than it runs on W10.

So, I am not the least bit happy I can't run W11 on this PC or my newer Dell and HP business desktop PC's and notebooks that have Intel 7th gen core processors and older.

We are completely at the mercy of Microsoft regarding W11.

[HawkeEye]

Perhaps not, according to the MSFT web site the certification process requires the OEM submit a request for certification for each processor.  So I assume HP has not submitted the paperwork for the i7 processor I have

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Why would HP submit a processor certification request for any processor that Microsoft has already stated won't be supported?

That would be a complete waste of time.

Microsoft is calling the shots on the supported processors.

There is no mention of submitting documentation for processor certification support for processors that don't meet the requirements.

Windows Hardware Compatibility Program Specifications and Policies | Microsoft Docs

[Prométhée]

Hello
[This is an automatic response
so i don't have to repeat everything
Some indications can be changed, and some may not be useful to you, I can not always adapt the answer!]

the official version of windows 11 at the time of writing this answer has not yet been released, unless I'm mistaken!
Don't rush, any new version has these problems, wait at least a little bit before you start
Check everywhere if there are problems after installation or not!
For tpm 2.0, there are many sites that are starting to talk about it.
You can start by checking the general compatibility with the microsoft tool

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11
https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp
another tool given by the expert @WAWood gives more information (thanks to him for this find
https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases

for TPM 2.0 to be activated with bios uefi, if it is possible
"In the search box or with the Windows + R key combination, we type tpm.msc."

look at the bottom, where the TPM version is shown. If we see version 2.0, our computer should be compatible with Windows 11 in this section.
source:
https://www.netcost-security.fr/guides/guides-tech/27213/comment-activer-tpm-2-0-et-secure-boot-pour...
update
I read that it would be more or less possible to add a module, but nothing concrete, nothing found for the moment
The security module, being generally integrated into the processor, there is no way to change this for many computers, incompatible processors!
The requirements for windows 11 may change, in the meantime avoid spending unnecessary money.

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/06/28/update-on-windows-11-minimum-system-requirement...
hp official link
https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_4300937-4295746-16
[edit]update
I don't know if we can find it in English
There is something new, still a little confused, but it seems, that the requirements are still changed
There would still be certain conditions, not too uninteresting in the end if it stays like that!
The link is translated here, I don't know if it will be clear, but in the main line it should be understandable!

translate.googlews Windows 11: your PC will be able to install it, but there is .. 

[HawkeEye]

Because apparently that is the process as defined by MSFT.  My desktop processor was not listed a month ago, so someone certified it in the last month.  Apparently this is a dynamic list and not a final list, but it takes a request by the OEM to get there.

Another possibility is MSFT dropping back to fewer requirements for upgrade.  In my experience MSFT does respond to pressure from OEMs and customers when they make errors, which I believe this is one.  It is to their advantage to have everyone move to Win 11, just as it was with Win 10.

When they pull this stunt and customers stop to think about the upgrade cost is when they start to think about alternative options for PCs.  I was there when IBM arrogantly thought no one would leave OS/2 for some upstart like MSFT.

[HawkeEye]

Thanks this is a much more complete response and I will check out the links.