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‎12-13-2017 05:28 AM

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Product: HP Envy x360 15M
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit)

I have HP Envy x360 15m

I would like to partition the current C drive into an app drive C:, and a data drive 😧 (for example). 

The 😧 label, however, is already used for the recovery drive on the outer edge of the hard disk.

Usually the recovery drive is on the inside, before the C drive.

Will changing the label of the recovery drive to E: cause problems?Screen Shot 12-13-17 at 09.20 PM.PNG

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‎12-17-2017 05:27 AM

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Since the full model number has not been posted, I cannot tell several things about that model in order to advise further.  If it was me, I would not do what is the posted desire but it is yours to do as you wish.  I would get a new hard drive, keeping the present drive as a good backup.  Then reinstall Windows 10 from an install media made with the Media Creation Tool found here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

 

Scroll down to the "Using the tool to create installation media" and follow the instructions.  Install Windows 10 on the new hard drive and partition it in the manner you wish, with the old drive disconnected.  Once it has been verified to be working, then move the data from the old drive to the new drive.  I would use backup software to reinstall the app software and any important data from the old drive to the new.  Actually doing what you asked about, it would be a prefect setup to make the new c: drive an SSD and then the other "stuff" on the new hard drive. 

 

If Windows 10 came as the OEM OS, I would make sure the Recovery Media disk set/flash drive was made before doing anything else.  If Windows 10 was an upgrade from older Windows, it will not matter to make the Recovery set


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‎12-13-2017 09:10 AM

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While I have not tried it, IMHO do not change the D drive letter.  The Recovery Manager uses D for restoring the PC to factory, assuming that it came with Windows 10.  If it happens to be an older model that Windows 10 was an upgrade from either Windows 7 or Windows 8 then it will not matter.


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‎12-15-2017 09:27 AM

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Thank you for your advice. It is very helpful. Wondering about a possible solution. Is it possible to move the recovery portion inward? For example C drive 200G, then recovery D drive100G, and the last portion E drive as a data drive. The reason is I'd like to set it up so my data isn't scrubbed in some emergency.

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‎12-16-2017 04:57 AM

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I really do not understand the terminology being used.  IE: "Is it possible to move the recovery portion inward?"  Please explain.

 

As described eariler in this thread, two of us have posted about leaving the Recovery Partition the way it is, if it is expected to actually be able to use it for Recovery.  If that is not what is going to be the used for in the future, do whatever you wish with that.

 

In the screenshot at the first of the thread, there is no E partition showing.  Please explain where that will come from.  Maybe an additional drive added?


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‎12-16-2017 07:09 PM

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Here is what I would like to do:

The hard drive is 1Tb.

I will create a new partition from 300 - 350Gb, leaving the first 300Gb as C drive.

Copy the OEM partition to the new partition and then label it D drive.

The remaining 650Gb will be labeled E drive.

 

I would like to do this so I can preserve my data should a recovery require formatting of the C drive.

Maybe with newer versions of Windows this no longer happens, in which case . . . I'll just leave it as is.

Thanks much for your advice.

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‎12-17-2017 05:27 AM

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Since the full model number has not been posted, I cannot tell several things about that model in order to advise further.  If it was me, I would not do what is the posted desire but it is yours to do as you wish.  I would get a new hard drive, keeping the present drive as a good backup.  Then reinstall Windows 10 from an install media made with the Media Creation Tool found here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

 

Scroll down to the "Using the tool to create installation media" and follow the instructions.  Install Windows 10 on the new hard drive and partition it in the manner you wish, with the old drive disconnected.  Once it has been verified to be working, then move the data from the old drive to the new drive.  I would use backup software to reinstall the app software and any important data from the old drive to the new.  Actually doing what you asked about, it would be a prefect setup to make the new c: drive an SSD and then the other "stuff" on the new hard drive. 

 

If Windows 10 came as the OEM OS, I would make sure the Recovery Media disk set/flash drive was made before doing anything else.  If Windows 10 was an upgrade from older Windows, it will not matter to make the Recovery set


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‎12-18-2017 07:58 AM

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Thanks for the advice, Dean.

My model number is HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-bp1xx.

Of course once I got the computer I created a recovery thumb drive.

I guess I'll try to find an external hard drive after the holidays, if there's any money left.

I may as well use that one as a data drive and leave the rest as is.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

I am impressed with the quick and useful responses from this forum.

 

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‎12-18-2017 08:18 AM - edited ‎12-18-2017 08:19 AM

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Glad to help!!  I found a manual for that model line

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c05527167

 

In that manual is listed the option for a SSD drive.  I mentioned that earlier, then you could also use an external enclosure or buy an external drive, either way. 

 

I am glad the Recovery Media was made.  So many users fail to do that and are then clamoring for the media after a hard drive failure.

 

BTW:  it is best to have a backup plan for all the data in case of a harddrive failure, besides the Recovery media


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‎01-10-2018 09:01 AM

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Hi again Dean,

I hope your year is off to a glorious start!

Is the D drive as a recovery really necessary?

I had to do a restore this weekend, and did it from a thumb drive.

As this happened, I lost all my other software, data, music, and photos.

Will there be any problem with future recoveries if I use the D drive for data?

I'm old-fashioned and like to keep stuff right here where I need it, not on external drives.

Erasing a 1TB hard drive with every recovery seems a bit extreme.

 

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‎01-10-2018 12:46 PM - edited ‎01-10-2018 12:47 PM

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Well, the Recovery media from the thumb drive is adequate for a recovery and if that is what was used then it also should have asked if you wished to backup the data before it proceeded.  If that step was overlooked or ignored, then the data would be lost.  If, by chance the Windows 10 media was used instead of the HP, then I do not know if it would ask for data backup or not, as I have not actually done one from the Windows 10 media.

 

BTW: if the user does a HP Recovery media restore, it will reinstall the Recovery D again.  So even if you removed the Recovery D, it will return when the HP Recovery is run.


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