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06-03-2023 07:19 PM
I just purchase a Zbook Firefly laptop that was supposed to have had Windows 11 preinstalled but it wasn't, it came with Windows 10 Pro. I selected the Windows 11 Pro upgrade and since then the Windows Hello facial recognition does not work. I have spent numerous hours trying every option suggested in this forum and via Google search with no luck. I"m getting ready to send the laptop back and request that I get a new laptop that has Windows 11 Pro installed as purchased. But if someone can help me fix this quickly I'll stick with this laptop.
Thanks,
Rick
06-04-2023 10:41 AM
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According to the Specifications, the system should have come with Windows 11.
Windows 10 is only available as a downgrade option.
That said, there are not any Windows 10 OS drivers available for Windows 10 in Software and drivers for HP ZBook Firefly 14 inch G9 Mobile Workstation PC (4C3U6AV)
Not sure how you ended up with Windows 10 at purchase.
The three models I checked at the Store/HP.com USA Sales all show Windows 11 as the Operating System. This includes the two lower end models and the higher end model - HP ZBook Firefly 14 inch G9 Mobile Workstation PC - Wolf Pro Security Edition
Sounds wrong that you would be able to purchase a current-new-in-box Zbook Firefly 14 with an old OS installed.
Were it mine to do, I'd check with the merchant that sold you the device.
I'd return a system pre-loaded with the wrong Operating System version.
Check with the merchant's return policy.
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06-04-2023 11:05 AM
Thanks for your response. I just sent my salesperson, purchased directly from HP, that I'm not happy that I'm dealing with this laptop having the wrong Windows OS pre-installed. Almost makes me believe that this was a previously returned laptop. But if I can get the Windows Hello working I'm fine, otherwise I will return and try again with a new laptop. My preference is to just get it working. It doesn't seem like it should be that difficult so hoping that someone else had to deal with Windows Hello not working on Windows 11 and has an easy solution.
Rick
06-04-2023 11:34 AM
You are welcome.
Sure -- if you "got a deal" on the system and you are happy with it, then keeping it "as is" is perhaps acceptable in your situation.
Not sure what to offer after you have "tried everything".
There are a limited number of troubleshooting options.
OK, one more try and then making way for "someone else"...
Starting here:
HP PCs - Troubleshooting Windows Hello Face Recognition
As you know by now, Windows Hello facial recognition requires Windows Updates to be current and installed, the HP Drivers and Software updated / installed, AND an IR camera.
The check for the camera type is made in the Device Manager.
One example - Open the Device Manager and check all hidden / detected items "by Container"
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Find Stuff in the Device Manager
For example,
Bluetooth
Cellular
Facial Recognition
HP IR Camera
Other hardware…
Example
Control Panel > icon view > Device Manager
Tab View > Check Show hidden devices
Select Devices by container
Note the computer name at the top of the list
Scroll down through the list to the next “computer name” entry
Left-Click (on the name) to expand the list
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Alternatively, standard Device Manager check - "By Type"
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BIOS - Updated / Options / Check - Restore Defaults??
True - this, too, is part of "Everything" - ignore if checked or if not relevant...
If not checked, open the BIOS ( Repeatedly click ESC immediately after starting the computer ),
Check the entries, possibly set the BIOS to Defaults.
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Reminder: Be ratty careful if you decide to touch the TPM -- nothing in this message touches the subject of changing or touching the TPM.
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From the Image Assistant Web page:
HP Image Assistant Installation Path Notes
The software installs into C:\SWSetup\<sp#> where “sp#” is the name of the installation package.
Once installed, (Optionally) PIN the software executable to Windows Start and or Taskbar
Optionally, the software executable can be “sent to Desktop” as a shortcut
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For example,
When updating to version C:\SWSetup\sp147281
Before updating to the current / latest version
If you have the older version "Pinned" to Start
Then
Open Windows Start (Windows key)
Find and UNPIN the (old) HP Image Assistant
Open Windows Explorer
Navigate to C:\Users\YourAccount\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Remove / Delete the link to the older version of the software
If you have an older version icon shortcut set on the Desktop
Either manually remove the old icon / shortcut from the Desktop
OR
Open Windows Explorer
Open / Navigate to your user account.
Open the Desktop Folder
Right-Click on the shortcut and remove / delete the old shortcut
Next,
Download and install the latest version of HP Image Assistant
Next,
For the purposes of this example,
Open File Explorer and Navigate to the new / current path to the software: C:\SWSetup\sp147281
Find and Right-Click on HPImageAssistant.exe
PIN to Start
Optionally
Send to Desktop (create shortcut)
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06-06-2023 06:13 AM
Thanks again for your suggestions. I finally got an HP tech support person who knew exactly what the problem was. Since the laptop started out with Windows 10 and that's were I setup Windows Hello, when I upgraded to Windows 11, the settings for Windows Hello in Win 10 are not compatible with Win 11 and it corrupts the registry for the settings. Win 11 doesn't know how to get to the Win 10 settings.
My only choice is to either wipe the laptop and build it with WIndows 11 from scratch or what I have been trying to do is get to HP to replace it with the same machine with WIndows 11 Pro preinstalled as I had purchased. I'm having problems getting HP to replace it, which I don't understand why. They have the same laptop for sale just at a higher price than what I paid for it. So now I have to decide on whether I just return it, partially on principal but also why should I have to spend a couple of more hours fixing their issue and buy a Dell instead.
RIck
06-06-2023 06:57 AM
You are welcome.
Thanks for the update.
I personally dislike "migrated" systems regardless of the brand or model of the hardware. The "half-here-half-there" Operating System is not something I want to deal with. Did that once and was cured of the desire to do it again. In my case, I did wipe and reload the OS. Smiling.
Personally, I like the ZBook series very much -- my current "center piece" workstation is a fully packed 17 in. G8. Nice machine.
Sure -- if you think the other brand more to your liking, do that. The brand has a solid fan base.
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