probook 6560b does not recognize my SSD

[ptichdown]

Hello Slym,
which speed results do you have with this drive?

[Slym]

See previous posts for benchmarks.

[6560b_owner]

Yep - we covered that in the last posts. Basically, your sata-III drive hits the sata-II limits, which is bad for max speeds, but still much faster than any performance with disk based drives. SSDs have lower power draw, no noise as well as much more shock resistance, which means they are perfect for notebooks.

Complain with HP about the speed limitations, but there is nothing we can do. The BIOS is thoroughly locked, and the problem resides somewhere in not using / unlocking the 2 sata-III capable links of the notebook mainboard.

That's not something we users can easily fix.

By the way:

Be aware of the various problems of SSDs, including the OCZ Vertex 2 / Agility 2 series dying without recovery, and still make frequent backups of your important data. My Agility 2 died on me without warning, but to my knowledge, the vertex 3 / agility 3 series is unaffected of these failures..

[ptichdown]

Thx
What do you recommend for this notebook? Sata2 or sata3?
Maybe you recommend a specific drive?

[6560b_owner]

As this is not a 'buyers guide' - thread but a product-specific bug-complaint-thread, I'll keep it short:

with todays SSDs performance, no manufacturer with a clear mind builds his 350-500 MB/s capable drives with an interface that limits the drive to 300 MB/s, right? So you have to get a sata-III model.

(Or you'll end up with older generation, slow drives like the Vertex 2 dropping like flies because of some bloody construction failure)

SSD space is expensive, so you'll need to weight  your storage and performance needs against your budget.

The Kingston Hyper-X 256GB-model seems a bit pricy, so I wouldn't recommend that if you can't use it full speed. The 180GB model of the OCZ Agility 3 would seem to be more of a compromise option if you're on budget.

Otherwise, you're good to get any SSD drive you like. Read some benchmarks/reviews and decide which manufacturer you still trust after the disasters of OCZ, Intel and Corsair.

Another thing to make your choice easier: the 'old' 500 GB 2,5" disk drive you take from the notebook is a fine external storage. Add a (not too cheap, you'll regret that) 2,5" external enclosure with ESATA+USB connection and you've got a fast, 'low cost' 500 GB external storage that doesn't need plug power and is therefore perfect as a portable data drive for your notebook.

Add some encryption against possible loss and theft (your cpu is AES-NI capable, that means almost no performance losses due to encryption if you're using good software and AES) and you've got speed as well as data, plus an easy backup option against ssd drive failure.

[ptichdown]

Thx for the info. Many reviews are positive about the vertex3 250gb. I think this will be a good option for me!

[ptichdown]

Hello,

i have bought a vertex 3 120gb disk for my 6560B with latest firmware.

My 6560 is not very stable (when using much disk-usage).

I have already the latest firmware for the disk.

The speedresults are as follows:

What do you think about it?

[6560b_owner]

These values are fine for sata-II.

But what do you mean with 'not very stable when using much disk usage'?

Crashes, failures? Please be more specific.

There are many stress test applications available to find the source of problems, e.g. memtest86+, prime95, various graphic benchmarks .. if these trigger the problem, your ssd is probably not the cause for any problems. If they don't, search on.

[ptichdown]

Hi,

replaces my vertex3 for a crucial M4.

I had many freezes and bsods with the vertex 3.

Here are the results of the Crucial M4 (very stable and plug and play)

[PBender]

FYI

I have a 6560b which originally came with a Seagate 320 GB disk. On customer request I had it replaced with an Intel SSD 520 Series 120 GB SSD disk.

1. I installed a clean (not HP) MS Windows (incl. all updates) on the Seagate disk -> no problems with about 4 hours run-time
2. I installed a clean MS Windows (incl. all updates) on the Intel SSD disk -> no real problems, but just not as I like an installation to go
3. On one occasion the laptop refused to boot from the SSD. It was the end of the evening so I left the problem as it was
4. Next morning I rebooted the laptop -> no problems
5. For a rush job I swapped back to the original Seagate disk and supplied the laptop to another customer -> no problems
6. I got the second 6560b with a Seagate HDD
7. I installed a clean MSWindows (incl. all updates) on the Seagate disk -> no problems with about 4 hours run-time
8. I installed a clean MS Windows (incl. all updates) on the Intel SSD disk -> no real problems, but just not as I like an installation to go, but more or less the same as the first time with the SSD
9. After a short break I checked for updates a couple of days later and no problems with the SSD and did a couple of updates including some reboots and again no problems
10.  After the last update I switched the system off and half an hour later I switched the machine on -> no boot disk
11.  Back to the original Seagate HDD -> everything fine
12. SSD disk to SATA-USB docking on an other PC -> access to the disk
13. SSD back in 6560b -> no HDD reported by BIOS

In short "iffy" / not reliable. I did (after being pointed to this discussion by my hardware dealer) a BIOS update (with the original Seagate HDD) and put the Intel SSD back in and voila SSD was visible again 😞

Given the facts:

1. no much gain in speed
2. not really reliable
3. it's a stand alone laptop which will get a lot of programs and data on

I will advice my customer to stick with the Seagate HDD and do an other test with the SSD on a networked laptop.