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10-02-2019 04:58 AM
Can anyone advice me any product that Hp supports.
I wanna put 3,5" Sata Removable HDD mobile Rack for HP Z820 front panel.it has 2 free 5,25" bay.
on the internet I found one product. from product's web page it says it is for hp z820. But I wanna find official hp brand. (https://www.icydock.com/product/images/mb876sk-b_kit.jpg)
anyone any idea?
10-02-2019 12:40 PM
Hi Terekeme,
I don't think HP make a removable (hot swap) caddy for the Z series workstations. I use an Icy dock dual 2.5" / 3.5" caddy on my Z620;
10-02-2019 03:41 PM
HP does not make a removable 5.25 bay adapter for the z820 so you are limited to the numerous 3rd party solutions
do you require a enclosed removable tray or can you use a trayless design
i personally prefer/use the trayless ones the first link is the model i personally use as it's able to support 5.25 and 2.5 drives at the same time and has dual usb 3.0 ports
https://www.startech.com/HDD/Mobile-Racks/525-Tray-Less-SATA-Hot-Swap-Bay~HSB100SATBK
10-28-2019 07:38 AM
HP DX115 Removable Hard Drive (Frame and Carrier) Enclosure _ HP Online Store_files
I have found this from HP store.. I will use this if I can...
I want this to back up my files in hard drives via sata removable rack..
Thanks for your comments..
10-28-2019 09:59 AM - edited 10-28-2019 06:25 PM
Good project, and here's a few added ideas:
The HP QuickSpecs for the DX115 are HERE , and HP there officially supports its use in the Z420/Z620/Z820/Z440/Z640, and others. I personally have migrated to use of the passive cooled Icy Dock 3.5" form factor SATA III carrier/receiver system when needed... that only accepts 2.5" HDDs or SSDs, and I've posted methods and pics about the installs here in this forum. Using SATA III 3.5" large HDDs in the DX115 does have economic advantages, however.
Your chosen DX115 receiver/carrier device is excellent quality, and fits into a 5.25" spare bay. It is rated to SATA III, and you would certainly want to use a SATA III drive in your carrier to optimize speed of backup.
You also must understand how to plug the SATA data cable from that device into a SATA III port on the motherboard. I have seen many cases where people did a similar thing for backup and plugged the device into a SATA II port on the motherboard and wondered why their backups took so long.
For the Z420/Z620 workstations, for example, only the two bottom edge front light gray ports are SATA III..... all the others are SATA II. The Z820 has higher capabilities (EDIT: but still is limited to only 2 SATA III ports on the motherboard as DGroves explains below). These Z420/Z620 workstations come from HP with those two having their cables fed to the rear "BlindMate connector" of the bottom and middle 3.5" metal drive bay "drawers" , and generally nowdays use those two for boot drive SATA III SSD and document drive SATA III HDD service, respectively. The bottom metal bay is bay 0 and the next one up is bay 1, faintly stamped in the metal. If I was doing your project with the DX115 I'd route its SATA data cable to the motherboard port that is one-in from the front along the motherboard's bottom edge. That would be SATA III port 1, and I'd leave the boot drive cable (from the bottom metal drive bay 0) attached to SATA III port 0 (at the motherboard's bottom edge far front corner). Edit: That, however, leaves your documents drive no remaining free motherboard SATA III port. See DGrove's solution below. If you go that route the place to disable the motherboard's LSI chipset is within the security section of BIOS, and by disabling it here the chipset becomes invisible to Device Manager and the operating system.
I don't work with Z820 workstations, but this is the basic concept..... you will want to use a SATA III port for sure if you can. By the way..... that combined receiver/carrier device is made for HP by Cru, and you can find the HP version on eBay. Excellent quality as expected.... I have one for testing purposes. You can also run a 2.5" SSD or HDD in that using my favorite HP 2.5 to 3.5 form factor adapter (654540-001 or 654540-002 at about 10.00 on eBay). The receiver has a small rear fan necessary for use with hotter HDDs.... SSDs don't need as much cooling and likely would do just fine with that fan removed or converted over to a quieter fan. I can't remember the fan's size, but if it is 40x40 mm Noctua makes a set of very nice 40mm fans both 10 and 20 mm thick, and with either PWM or 3-wire leads (bottom of this LINK ). It might be a 30x30mm fan, however.
Good luck on your project.....
10-28-2019 05:00 PM
the z820 only has two sata III 6GBps ports (located next to the five "SCU" ports which are sata II 3GBps
what confuses people on the z820 is the LSI sas/sata ports on the bottom edge of the board are sata iII at 3GBps/ SAS 6GBps
i recommend you buy a LSI 9207/9211 and install the "IT" mode, non raid firmware,.. this will give you 4 or 8 SATA III 6GBps ports that can also be bootable, if you go this route disable the onboard LSI controller and it's bios from within the z820 bios