Bios?

[Yoron]

Hi, got a similar problem to his.

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-System-and-Recovery/F9-and-F10-Boot-options-not-wor...

What it means is that I can't boot into the bios, or 'firmware' as HP seems to call it. Which btw, was rather lacking from the start considering that I have a so called, HP paviion gaming desktop PC TG01-2000a, with a Nvida rtx 3060 and a AMD Ryzen 5 5600G.

F10 and F11 wont work for me.

I can reach it from windows in several ways, or,  by using the <ESC> tangent at hard (cold) boot, to then get to a screen in where only the first options work. Those where you can test your computers hardware. Did that, and all of it came out as 'passed'. It make the bios a joke, and me unable to dual boot Linux / Widows 11, And yes. I do want to do that from the hard disk, not by a USB stick.

I won't buy any more HP after this. And why the bios suddenly has become locked I don't know. Had to leave it for a change of graphics card and maybe that could be a reason, updating to a corrupt bios? But everything seems to work, software (W11) and hardware. Except that I can't do sh* with it.

Well, that's it. If anyone has a solution I'm all ears, or eyes, as it may be.

Yoron

 

 

[Yoron]

Eh, thinking of it.

Can't do it from a usb stick either, can I   🙂

Yeah.

[JohnDeMol]

I performed a Windows Update + Optional HP feature update, only to have it corrupt my bios (or atleast lose compatibility with my 5000-series CPU.) currently looking into the steps of going about flashing a proper BIOS back to the motherboard, replacing it seems to be the only other option. That or wait for some HP technician that doesn't exist in my part of the world to do the replacement/reflashing for me.

[Yoron]

Yes, better avoid those Hp updates through Windows 11, or 10.  I made the same mistake once, and it didn't work. Hp is a better choice I think, You just need your " System-SKU " Which I found going to Widows own 'system information' tool. Located in the 'control panel' . Otherwise google on it. If you need reinstall the bios I think this is a good start. 

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_3966820-3438449-16

And I fixed it by upgrading my bios. I think? You can also test your keyboard keys here. If one can get ones OS working that is.

https://www.keyboardtest.org/

I haven't checked it yet though, better restart and see if F10 and F11 works again.

Fingers crossed.

Yoron

[Yoron · Accepted solution]

It worked. One problem less.  🙂

But I still think the bios is lacking. Locking out such a lot of fun things to do ion a gaming computer. As for secure boot and TPM?

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/22550376/microsoft-windows-11-tpm-chips-requirement-security

It wrong that all Linux systems not buying Microsoft new 'solution'. And not having it doesn't make Linux  a security risk, as far as I know. If it wasn't for the games and the polished GUI I would have switched a long time ago.

[JohnDeMol]

Great job!

What did it for you in the end? And did you at any point before this do a clean install of Windows like I did (a non HP iso)?
I fear doing that got rid of the potential recovery method you linked above.
I've tried the Windows + B key and the USB Recovery Flash, but the PC didn't react to either of them (or the combination of them).

[Yoron]

It was as simple as overwriting the old bios with a new,  upgrading from v. F.14 to F.15 if I remember right. That magically corrected it. I really miss the old days where everything was a lot more simple. Today everything is hidden, and you have to dig to get to things that used to be a 'click' away, in f.ex Windows. Unless you're one of those super geeks using the keyboard for everything. Which sort of makes them stand still, buried in the sixties seventies, sort of 🙂

Yeah, guess those 'reserve bios' are hidden in some hidden partition and if you reinstall they won't stay, Unless you get a 'product specified' ISO from HP. Maybe it's possible to reinstall though, or at least something similar, using Windows 11. A very weak maybe though.

Well, it seems we both got it working John, and that's a good thing.

Best regards

Yoron.