How can I change the Boot drive

[savvy2]

to the other poster its not a raid drive or controller here.

a whole diffenent matter.

[savvy2]

pfttt... 

[mdklassen]

The author opened with:

$ ‎06-30-2017 02:12 PM

$ Product Name: HP h8-1280t

$ Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit)

$ I have installed a new, larger Hard Drive.

> still not once did you tell the helpers    why a hdD was installed, new.  ??

He did say "new" and "larger".

> 1: old one was bad, or corruputed,  cloning  bad to bad is silly.

Indeed, bad-to-bad is silly.

However, cloning "SMART detected imminent failure" to "brand-new" should copy 99.9% of the sectors.

If the "missing" 0.1% were not "absolutely-critical" sectors, e.g., free space on the "source" drive, that is a different matter.

Also, cloning "good-but-too-small" to "good-and-larger" is a good thing.

> one ran great but want a newer faster drive,  sure clones work, 

Agreed.

> but 100% mirror , not, 

Please do some research about "RAID 1 disk mirroring" -- where 2 disk-drives, in "real-time", maintain exactly the same content.

> remove the old drive, or you get wierd, its not wierd ,

Huh?

> MS structure does not allow 2 driver EXACTLY the same at the same time.

Correct, but did you mean Driver? or Drives?

The "RAID" processing is done by the motherboard -- Windows does not need to know that the target of the input/output operations is a "RAID set", not just a single disk-drive.

>  .... blah, blah, blah ...

Too Long. Didn't read.  Not seeming to offer any "helpful" suggestions that were not given, earlier.

[mdklassen]

$ I have installed a new, larger Hard Drive.

> still not once did you tell the helpers    why a hdD was installed, new.  ??

He did say "new" and "larger".

> 1: old one was bad, or corruputed,  cloning  bad to bad is silly.

Indeed, bad-to-bad is silly.

However, cloning "SMART detected imminent failure" to "brand-new" should copy 99.9% of the sectors.

If the "missing" 0.1% were not "absolutely-critical" sectors, e.g., free space on the "source" drive, that is a different matter.

Also, cloning "good-but-too-small" to "good-and-larger" is a good thing.

> one ran great but want a newer faster drive,  sure clones work, 

Agreed.

> but 100% mirror , not, 

Please do some research about "RAID 1 disk mirroring" -- where 2 disk-drives, in "real-time", maintain exactly the same content.

> remove the old drive, or you get wierd, its not wierd ,

Huh?

> MS structure does not allow 2 driver EXACTLY the same at the same time.

Correct, but did you mean Driver? or Drives?

The "RAID" processing is done by the motherboard -- Windows does not need to know that the target of the input/output operations is a "RAID set", not just a single disk-drive.

>  .... blah, blah, blah ...

Too Long. Didn't read.  Not seeming to offer any "helpful" suggestions that were not given, earlier.

[gradutunes]

My computer problem has been resolved. I have have both drives (Hitachi and WD) connected, along with a backup drive. I can boot from either the Hitachi or WD, depending on how I set the boot drive sequence in the BIOS. When/if the Hitachi fails, I will just remove it, in the meantime I will use it for temp storage and not save anything critical on it. I realize that any day it may not boot.

I appreciate your inputs, it made me think about what I was doing, and I learned somethings about the BIOS and DISKPART.

In the end, I think it worked out better than if I had just cloned the Hitachi and threw it away.

Thanks again. 

[mdklassen]

>  I realize that any day it may not boot.

Remember that Windows Update (and Adobe Update and Apple Update and anti-virus updater) run "automatically", but just on the disk-drive that you have booted.  So, occasionally, boot from the "other" disk-drive, and run those updaters, to keep that system "up-to-snuff".

[gradutunes]

That's a very good point.

Thanks

[savvy2]

did you see if both boots , hold the Microsoft ACTIVATION

i bet you, it will not.

and you know what that means in 30 days, right (the MS punishment engine rears its ugly head)

>?

the 7 MS activation trips  are here, and HDD is one, factory (and the MS, license engines too)

MS does not tell the rules on HIT points.....  ( its a secret)

but if it shows 2 OS on one MACHINE with same COA, it will HIT YOU.

even killing both dead. (or what ever ms punishment decides,  on w7 it even shuts down updates)

the cure is to make sure you dont boot both. even every other day.

see whY?

http://pcdied.com/cloning.html

I can put W10 on 1 HDD (SSD)  and one on partition called /W10B/

and guess what,  both have to have  COA licsense.

it might take a while for MS to find this but they always do, in time.

what I do, 100s of times,  after, for sure the new drive is stable and backed up is to delete at least the old boot files

in the old disk.   (the root files i toast)

rendering it inert boot, but all documents still there.

what i do is park it on a shelf, so if i need it in an emergancy it is there.  6months?

your bad hdd will get worse each day spun, why do that?, park it,  and leave it there, so if later say you find xxxxxx.docx missing can find it.  there is a chance....

id never run a bad drive, unless copying all data to back it up. while it's not dead.

and never boot it again, see my logic and reasoning?

[savvy2]

i have an external HDD, 3TB for backupts. and BD-R recorder

i can back up all the data off that 2nd bad drive,  I can even undelete files and can also copy bad files that have bad clusters in them to the ext. drivce

if you have data,  there will easy copies, and the hard bad fails.  we can get both.

called forenisic file capture. 

normal windows blocks corrupted files. but there are ways to bypass that .

GOT DATA?

[mdklassen]

>  did you see if both boots , hold the Microsoft ACTIVATION ----   i bet you, it will not.

You bet?  You know? You think?   You have experimentally verified it?    Sigh.

Microsoft uses the phrase significantly change the hardware configuration to indicate when activation is required.

That is not the same as slightly change.

For this person, given that both disk-drives are simultaneously attached, the only "change" is the choice of "boot" volume -- same RAM, same CPU, same CD/DVD, same network interface, same motherboard.

That's not enough difference to trigger the Activation Wizard.

It might be different if the person physically swapped disk-drives.

However, physically changing only the disk-drive scores only '1' point, which is not enough points to trigger the Activation Wizard.

[mdklassen]

i have an external HDD, 3TB for backupts. and BD-R recorder i can back up all the data off that 2nd bad drive,  I can even undelete files and can also copy bad files that have bad clusters in them to the ext. drivce if you have data,  there will easy copies, and the hard bad fails.  we can get both. called forenisic file capture.  normal windows blocks corrupted files. but there are ways to bypass that . GOT DATA?

All that is well and good, but what is your recommendation for the person who has successfully cloned his disk-drive?  Please FOCUS on him, not yourself.