CPU upgrade

[Lakhte]

My HP -System type   HP ProDesk 400 G3 SFF  RAM  8 GB running under Windows 10  Professional  Version  2009,  Build  10.0.19045.4170   CPU I5 - 6500 TPM 1.2 is not compatible with Windows 11. Would like to upgrade my CPU so that I can migrate from WIN 10 Pro to Win 11 Pro. Will be grateful for advice.

[Paul_Tikkanen · Accepted solution]

Unfortunately, your PC does not support upgrading to any Intel processors on Microsoft's W11 processor list.

Needs to be an Intel 8th generation core or newer processor.

If you are interested in installing W11 on your PC as is, you can read this discussion for how I upgraded several HP and Dell notebook and desktop PC's that did not meet the W11 hardware requirements to W11 22H2/22H3

You have to use the version of the Rufus utility that I zipped up and attached in the discussion (v3.18).

Re: Issues upgrading to windows 11 - HP Support Community - 8517912

If the in-place upgrade fails, you should be able to clean install W11 using the bootable W11 installation flash drive you made with Rufus.

Otherwise, you will need to buy a PC with an Intel 8th gen core processor such as the Prodesk 400 G5.

[Lakhte]

thank you PAUL. Your depth of knowledge,  service with unparalleled levels of courtesy and generosity of thought for the public can't be praised enough. You are a great man touching the highest levels of human decency all immersed with the fragrance of love and care. Thank you.

{One final piece of advice please {here in the UK BT broadband customers enjoy Norton Security free with the package}. I use my PC little, only to read some time newspapers, send and receiving emails, occasional online shopping and writing etc}. I  Keep all private data/files on a removable USB pen drive.  My PC SSD (drive 256 GB) has only and only operating system. (Win 10) and nothing else. Can I assume, really Windows security updates are not necessary for me?

[Paul_Tikkanen]

You're very welcome and thank you for the kind words.

You need to have the monthly W10 security updates because those address operating system vulnerabilities/exploits.

Those security updates are different than the antivirus/antispyware protection that Norton and the built in Windows defender antivirus programs provide.

It is unlikely that you would be impacted by any of these exploits but in the corporate and government world, it is essential that they keep those security updates current.

There are folks out there happily running Windows XP, Vista, W7, W8, & W8.1 on their PC's which are no longer in support by Microsoft--but there is a risk.

It's all about one's comfort level and having the latest bells and whistles for most of us, unless of course we are working with sensitive information--such as working from home.

That is why I prefer to install W11 on unsupported PC's so that they continue to get those security and cumulative updates.

I'm very happy with the PC's I have and see no need to buy new when they perform great.

I imagine your Prodesk 400 G3 does also.

I have an Elitedesk 800 G3 Desktop Mini PC which has the i5-6500T processor, and it runs W11 just fine and gets all of the cumulative and security updates.

The only thing I have to do is to use the Rufus utility once a year to create the W11 hardware check bypass USB flash drive when the new W11 release comes out each October.

For me it is no big deal at all.  Takes 30 minutes or so.

Cheers,

Paul

[Lakhte]

Dear Paul,

thank you for the advice. I have no pressing need to buy a new PC or upgrade to TPM 2. (I am short of confdence).

Kindest regards.

L. H. Zaidi

[Paul_Tikkanen]

Anytime.

I did the upgrade on my 800 G3 to TPM 2.0.

I too was a bit nervous about doing it, but basically all you do is run the exe file and follow the on-screen instructions which are pretty straightforward.

It only took a couple of minutes or so.  Maybe even less.

I just wanted to do it for the fun of it.

I knew that it wouldn't matter as far as W11 support was concerned.

I'm running W11 on several older HP and Dell business desktop PC's that cannot have the TPM 1.2 version updated to 2.0.

I'm running W11 on one HP notebook (350 G1) that doesn't even have a TPM security chip.

My opinion of the hardware requirements is not so much a security thing but that Microsoft doesn't want to have to continue supporting millions of ancient PC's for W11 like they did when they said any PC that could run W7, can also run W10.  That opened the flood gates.

Think about it.  There were PC's that came with Windows XP that met the W10 hardware requirements and if someone upgraded to W7 and then W10, Microsoft has been obliged to support a PC like that which could have been made in 2005.

If they hadn't drawn the line, they would still be having to field questions from someone with a PC from 2005 that may have a touchpad problem or a Wi-Fi adapter issue.  That's what they have to do now when that PC is on W10--until October of 2025.

That's why I think they drew the 8th gen processor/TPM/Secure boot cutoff line.

I have a HP 6910p notebook that was made in 2007.

HP has drivers for it going back for Windows 2000, XP, Vista and W7.

W11 works just fine on that notebook.

I have run every Windows operating system on that notebook from W2K to W11.

[Lakhte]

Dear Paul,

a beatiful update full of knowledge.  I suppose till Oc 2025 17 monts I will keep using my beatiful, reliable and strong horse HP DeskPro G3 I5-6500. After that I will think, what I shoud do. Thank you again for an expert advice.  

Kindest reggards,

L. H. Zaidi

[Paul_Tikkanen]

You're very welcome.