Erica6 w/2400g

[Slackware1995]

I want to know if there is anyway to put a 2400g into a HP computer with the Erica6 motherboard. If not, is there an HP motherboard that is the same size that supports the 2400g or is there a standard size motherboard that will work in the HP case?

Or is the power supply a standard ATX?  

Model TP01-2165z

Thanks

[banhien]

@Slackware1995 

The specs of HP Erica6:

            https://support.hp.com/hk-en/document/c07094657

which is a Customized: 29.09 x 20.3 cm (11.45 x 7.99 in) board, not standard ATX. It has 16 GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM (2 x 8 GB) now. I don't know what do you mean "to put a 2400g into a HP computer"

Regards.

[itsmyname]

@Slackware1995 -- the web-site that @banhien  cites lists:

• Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:

  Processor	TDP
  AMD Ryzen 3 5300G (Cezanne) 4.0 GHz base clock, up to 4.2 GHz max boost clock, 8 MB L3 cache, 4 cores	65 W
  AMD Ryzen 5 5600G (Cezanne) 3.9 GHz base clock, up to 4.4 GHz max boost clock, 16 MB L3 cache, 6 cores	65 W
  AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (Cezanne) 3.8 GHz base clock, up to 4.6 GHz max boost clock, 16 MB L3 cache, 8 cores	65 W

Your Ryzen 2400G is not on the above list. 

But, if you have any of the above processors, will the 2400G be any faster?

If it is faster, how much will it cost, and how much faster will it be?

What sort of programs do you run that need more processing power than the above 3 processors?

[Slackware1995]

"

The specs of HP Erica6:

            https://support.hp.com/hk-en/document/c07094657

which is a Customized: 29.09 x 20.3 cm (11.45 x 7.99 in) board, not standard ATX. It has 16 GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM (2 x 8 GB) now. I don't know what do you mean "to put a 2400g into a HP computer""

Yes, I know the specs of the board. Unfortunately they don't give much details, which is why I am asking questions.

What I mean by "put a 2400g into this HP computer" is that my main computer is a custom built computer that I built a few years ago. It has a dedicated AMD 5500XT video card, a x470 motherboard and has an AMD 2400g cpu in it. 

I bought this refirb'd HP tp01-2165z computer to use in my RV, but I want to put the 5600g cpu into my main computer, as this cpu is faster than the 2400g, but the 2400g's igpu is faster than the 5600g. It was cheaper to buy the HP with everything that it comes with, and the HP is extremely light, which is great for my RV. 

The 5600g works great in my main computer with a significant speed increase. But the Erica6 won't post with the 2400g. I find it hard to believe that this motherboard only supports 3 cpus.

I was hoping that HP could at the least confirm which cpu's this motherboard does support and preferably have a bios update that supports more cpus. If this motherboard doesn't support the 2400g, I'd be willing to buy a 3400g to put it in it, if this motherboard supports it. 

Alternatively, I would be willing to buy an older HP motherboard that does support the 2400g, if the price is reasonable; I would be willing to put in a standard motherboard, if there is any way to fit it in the case; or if the power supply is ATX compatible, I would be willing to get a new case and motherboard using; or if HP offers a cpu that is compatible with this motherboard.

So by choice of what I would prefer:
1. HP Erica supports the 2400g with a bios update
2. HP Erica supports a newer cpu, such as a 3200g/3400g
3. The case for the HP tp01-2625z supports an older motherboard that I can buy for a reasonable price that works with the 2400g

4. The case for the HP tp01-2625z supports a standard motherboard that I could buy

5. The power supply from the HP tp01-2625z is standard ATX that I can reuse in another case. This would be the least desirable as then I would have to find a light case for a decent price and buy a decent motherboard.

The computer for the RV is planned to be used as a very light gaming computer (older games that aren't very demanding) and to run a VM to run Linux for: routing (I need more than just a basic home router), file serving and Plex Media Server. The 2400g with 16gb RAM would be more than enough for my needs.
 

[Slackware1995]

"

• Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:
  Processor

  TDP

  AMD Ryzen 3 5300G (Cezanne) 4.0 GHz base clock, up to 4.2 GHz max boost clock, 8 MB L3 cache, 4 cores

  65 W

  AMD Ryzen 5 5600G (Cezanne) 3.9 GHz base clock, up to 4.4 GHz max boost clock, 16 MB L3 cache, 6 cores

  65 W

  AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (Cezanne) 3.8 GHz base clock, up to 4.6 GHz max boost clock, 16 MB L3 cache, 8 cores

  65 W

Your Ryzen 2400G is not on the above list. "

Yes, I know that the 2400g isn't on the list of "processor upgrades". I find it very unusual that this motherboard would only support 3 cpus.

"But, if you have any of the above processors, will the 2400G be any faster?

If it is faster, how much will it cost, and how much faster will it be?

What sort of programs do you run that need more processing power than the above 3 processors?""

I have the 5600g that came with the computer. I am planning on putting that cpu into my main computer that has an AMD 5500XT video card. In fact that cpu is in this computer right now and it is a significant upgrade.
I have the 2400g that was in this computer prior to putting the 5600g into it.

The 2400g's igpu is significantly faster than the 5600g's even though the 5600g's cpu is significantly faster than the 2400g's cpu. These are the specs of the two igpus:
2400g: Vega 11, 11 cores at 1250 MHz: 1.746 TFLOPS
5600g: Vega 7, 7 cores at 1900 MHz: 1.108 TFLOPS
The 2400g's igpu is 57.6% faster than the 5600g's igpu.

This means that my current computer that doesn't use the igpu is much faster than before, while the HP computer will have a much faster igpu for when I want to play a game, while having more than "enough" cpu power for most usage cases.

This was supposed to be a win-win. I never even thought that HP would make a motherboard that would only apparently support 3 cpu's. 

So that leaves me trying to spend the least amount of money to get the computer for my RV running. It may sound weird, but one of the selling points for buying the HP is how light they are, so I'd prefer not to have to buy a new case. The HP was also a good deal because it is a refurbished unit. It was much cheaper than buying the parts separately (not including the extra cost to buy Windows). It wasn't a perfect fit (small nvme), but fit 90% of my needs (except this *small* issue apparently not being able to downgrade to the 2400g.

[Prométhée]

Hello
Little chance it works, I didn't pay attention, did you try?
If the processor, could possibly, be compatible, with update of the bios, it is not necessary to count too much on it, it will not make an update for a previous processor
Your only option, and what you seem to want, would be another HP motherboard.
there, it will be also complicated, nothing says, that you can connect everything in the box, and it will be necessary to find the right dimension
I looked quickly, there is another version of the motherboard Erica
but too recent I guess

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06418627

so i had the idea to try to search with the processor model, and presiding hp motherboard

so well this type of model because 2400g, all alone?

AMD Ryzen5-2400G (Raven Ridge)

https://support.hp.com/nz-en/document/c05950920

Sunflower motherboard specifications.

• TDP: up to 65 W
• Socket type: AM4
• Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:

  Processor	TDP
  AMD Ryzen7-2700 (Pinnacle Ridge) 8 cores/16 threads	65 W
  AMD Ryzen5-2600 (Pinnacle Ridge) 6 cores/12 threads	65 W
  AMD Ryzen7-1700 (Summit Ridge) 3.0 GHz, 8 cores/16 threads	65 W
  AMD Ryzen5-1600 (Summit Ridge) 3.2 GHz, 6 cores/12 threads	65 W
  AMD Ryzen5-2400G (Raven Ridge) 3.6 GHz, 4 cores/8 threads	45 - 65 W
  AMD Ryzen3-2200G (Raven Ridge) 3.5 GHz, 4 cores/4 threads	45 - 65 W
  AMD AMD A12-9800 APU (Bristol Ridge) 3.8 GHz, 4 cores	65 W
  AMD AMD A10-9700 APU (Bristol Ridge) 3.5 GHz, 4 cores	65 W
  AMD AMD A8-9600 APU (Bristol Ridge) 3.1 GHz, 4 cores	65 W

but not the same

Customised size: 24.4x26.7 cm (9.6x10.5 in)

only, hard to know, if everything would be ok
I can't do more research but tried
If not, you will have to install a compatible processor, perhaps the simplest, and resell yours?

Sorry, I did not follow everything, because a little complicated with the translation

[Slackware1995]

"Your only option, and what you seem to want, would be another HP motherboard.
there, it will be also complicated, nothing says, that you can connect everything in the box, and it will be necessary to find the right dimension
I looked quickly, there is another version of the motherboard Erica
but too recent I guess

so i had the idea to try to search with the processor model, and presiding hp motherboard

so well this type of model because 2400g, all alone?"

Thank you for trying. I should have mentioned that I went down that same rabbit hole. I was hoping that someone from HP would have a definitive answer as their documentation, well sucks.

"If not, you will have to install a compatible processor, perhaps the simplest, and resell yours?"

I'm afraid that this is what I will have to do. It's much more than I was planning on spending, which means I could have built my own computer for cheaper. Not only that, the older 2400g uses much less Watts during use than the 5600g which isn't ideal for the RV computer (which at times may be running off of an invertor). 

Guess I will give it a couple of days to see if someone from HP has answers that are not available to us mere mortal users. In the meantime thank you!

[Prométhée]

Hello
sorry, but here there are practically only users answering ..
You may wait a long time for an hp employee, technician to answer you here.
I forgot, it might be difficult for you to find another inexpensive motherboard, and functional HP anyway