I want to upgrade my my SSD, can I use any SSD with a m.2 slot?

[noisemagician2]

Hi,

I want to upgrade a new SSD. Will any M.2 2280 fit and work? I am currently thinking about two different SSD. Will a 6000 MB SSD 1TB work? or will there be a bottleneck and should I get 3500 MB 2TB? I have a HP pavilion gaming tg01-0450. https://support.hp.com/nl-nl/document/c06463131

Using HWinfo64 it says Slot Type: PCI Express x4, so I am assuming I can make use of the full speed? If this is the case I will go for the 1TB if not I will go for 2TB but slower SSD.
What is the maximum read and write speed for a m.2 PCI x2 and PCI x4? Can I replace my current SSD with any brand?

Thanks in advance. 

[NonSequitur777]

@noisemagician2,

I would use your motherboard's M.2 socket 3, key M for SSD (PCIe x2) on your HP Pavilion Gaming - TG01-0450nd. Consider for example this User with an Erica (HP 8643) motherboard like yours who installed an M.2 NVMe 1TB Western Digital SSD (p/n: WDS100T1X0E-00AFY0 1TB) and achieved a whopping 391% Bench Performance, see link: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/42632824.

And there is no reason why you couldn't/shouldn't install a 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD.

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur777

[noisemagician2]

@NonSequitur777
Is Hwinfo64 not reliable? According to that my m.2 slot is a PCI 4 express. HP site says PCI x2 so how to be sure.
If the PCI x2 is this allow me to take advantage of 7000mb read and write speed? or would I be just wasting the speed because it could be a pcix2 slot? I want a fast SSD but if my pci slot cant handle it, it would be a waste. 

[NonSequitur777]

@noisemagician2,

Hwinfo64 is reliable, all I am pointing out that your M.2 socket 3, key M for SSD (whether it is PCIe x2 or x4) performs very well with an M.2 NVMe SSD in real life.

As a matter of fact, somewhat to my surprise, your PC's PCIe x2 works as well as the M.2 PCIe x4-2280 socket on my HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF gaming rig where incidentally, my Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB also performs at 391% Bench Performance, see: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/50424205!

Where did you get the 7,000MB read/write speed?  This speed may be theoretical, but I haven't seen these speeds on more dated PC platforms like yours or mine.  In my experience, 391% M.2 NVMe SSD bench performance, or something close to it, is more than sufficient for fast, smooth and stutter-free gaming at ultra high resolution -as long as you pair it with a high-end graphics card, like I did (Asus RTX 3080 OC Edition 12GB).

[EDIT:] And you really should make your new M.2 NVMe SSD your primary (boot) drive too, lest I forget to mention it.

Hope this helps.

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur777

[noisemagician2]

@NonSequitur777 
I think we might have a bit of miscommunication. Let me word it differently.
Currently in my m.2 socked there is an SSD that I want to replace, its current read and write speed is around 1500.

I read online that the generation of the socked determines which speeds you can achieve. So the reason that I asked about the 
 PCI Express x4 m.2 socket is I want to know if I have the generation that will allow me to fully utilize an SSD that has 7000 MB read 5000 MB write. If not I will instead of going for the very fast SSD for one with more space.

I am new to upgrading and don't understand the jargon yet so I don't know if I am interpreting the date that you or HWino64 gives me.
If I am, I will order the fast SSD asp so that I can install it tomorrow.  So my question is, which generation of slots do I have and what are the maximum speeds of data transfer possible with my setup? If you would like to help me out I would appreciate it greatly. 

[Prométhée · Accepted solution]

hi

There is confusion at hp, a link here indicates PCie x4

Un socket 3 M.2, clé M pour SSD (PCIe x4)

https://support.hp.com/fr-fr/document/c06440091

it seems to me that we had already discussed this, and I had found the opposite in relation to the chipset ..
more recent model, here, see this discussion, I don't have time to read / translate everything

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Does-Erica6-Motherboard-Support...

anyway, made according to the price, and the space, you need..
speed, may not be so noticeable depending on what you are doing
The maximum given, is often depending on what is done, it is not conclusive, it is the maximum possible, it does not mean that it will always be the read / write speed

[noisemagician2]

@Prométhée
Thank you so much, it can handle up to 8000GB I think. My price range is 188 euro's. 
You seem to know a lot about this so if you have a recommendation then I will go for that.
My use is for working with photoshop, photomanipulation and drawing. And of course gaming. 
My plan is to slowly upgrade everything this year, the GPU in June and the CPU in August,

You are very helpful thank you for the effort translating and all. 

[NonSequitur777]

@noisemagician2,

Long story short, your PC cannot achieve 5,000 ~ 7,000 MB read/write speeds.  Therefore, go with a more realistic option like this M.2 (2280) SSD with 3,300 ~ 3,500 MB read/write speeds: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MFZY2F2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or, within your budget, the 2TB option: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S2T0B/dp/B07MFZXR1B/ref=sr_1_1_mod_primary_new?crid....

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur777

[Prométhée]

"Thank you so much, it can handle up to 8000GB I think. "

I do not understand what you are referring to here, an error?

personally I would not recommend a model more than another, not having tested
check compare the prices, the duration of the support under guarantee
sometimes it is better to have an m2 disk with a longer warranty, even if more or less expensive

If you need a lot of space, to see, more than 1to ok, but in the event of a breakdown, it's as much data as possible lost, if you can't make a backup

[noisemagician2]

@Prométhée

"Thank you so much, it can handle up to 8000GB I think. "

''I do not understand what you are referring to here, an error?''

No, if I understand it correctly the amount of data transfer possible is dependent on the generation and lane of a slot. with a pci-e 2 you can have less data transfer than a pci-e 4. If your SSD theoretically has a  read speed of 7000 and a write speed of 5000 but if you have a older generation of slots you won't reach the maximum speed of the data transfer. It will be limited to that generations maximum speed.  This is what I mean but I am not sure if I got that right because I am a newbie. 
Thank you, very helpful.  Have a nice day, good Samaritan.