Upgrading PSU?

[Jmancometh678]

Hello, I was wondering how can i upgrade the Power supply? I have a HP pavillion gaming desktop TG01-2170m. I am looking to upgrade my 1660 super GPU for a 3060ti which according to parts picker is possible. However, the power requirements for a 3060ti appear to be around 600w, and my psu is at 400w and i am concerned that my power wont be enough. 

Any suggestions/solutions for this would be very helpful

[NonSequitur777]

@Jmancometh678,

You raised a very good question. As soon as I have posted this response, I am going to search to see if there is an HP PSU upgrade option available for you. If my attempts come up empty, there are "off the HP reservation" power options available.

My gaming rig's GPU -an Asus RTX 3080 12GB OC Edition hooked up to an HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF, is powered by a separate, external 850 watt fully modular power supply unit using an ATX 24-pin to SATA 4-pin Power Supply Adapter.  This ePSU is synced with/to the original HP internal PSU. I have three HP PC's powered in this manner, and it works A-OK.

Btw, parking a high-end GPU like the 3060ti or 3080 outside your gaming chassis also helps to keep things cooler than when it is installed in a PC casing that wasn't really designed to 'house' and provide adequate cooling for such a unit.

Of course, preferably, it would be very nice if you could upgrade your internal PSU with a proprietary 700+ watt HP PSU unit (if such a thing even exists) to comfortably power your RTX 3060-Ti.

Will follow up.

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur777

[NonSequitur777]

@Jmancometh678,

According to https://partsurfer.hp.com/partsurfer?searchtext=3V2Z3AV, you already have the best available HP PSU for your rig, the 400 watt PSU (HP p/n: L69242-800). Now, a 400 watt PSU is adequate for an AMD Radeon RX 5500 Graphics 4GB or GTX 1650 SUPER 4GB for which your computer was designed, but definitely not to power an RTX 3060ti.

There may be a compatible 500 watt HP PSU available, but that still falls well short of what you need.

The challenge lies in the fact that your motherboard and PSU are HP proprietary. It has a 4-pin power connector instead of a standard 24-pin ATX power connector, etc. and there usually aren't any 'beefy' HP proprietary PSUs made [at least not for mid-grade &/or older gaming PCs] -hence my alternative power solution choice.

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur777

[Prométhée]

hi

https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-pc-tg01-2000a/2100367769/product-inf...

indeed you must have erica 6 motherboard, check
at best therefore this power box

500W (L05757-800)

Solved: upgrades - HP Support Community - 8234279

https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-pc-tg01-2000a/2100367769/document/c0...

Graphics Card

NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti (8 GB GDDR6 dedicated)

Power Supply Type

500 W AC power supply

see different graphics card models, manufacturer requirements
hp installs this type of card

otherwise

https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-pc-tg01-2000a/2100367769/document/c0...

Graphics Card

NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3060 (12 GB GDDR6 dedicated)

Power Supply Type

400 W Smart AC power adapter

[NonSequitur777]

@Jmancometh678, @Prométhée,

My take is this: GeForce NVIDIA recommends a minimum 600 watt "Required System Power" PSU for an RTX 3060ti -see link below.  Granted, this is somewhat conservative, but a 500 watt PSU will likely cause GPU down-throttling during serious gaming, perhaps aggravated because your computer case wasn't designed to deal with the extra heat a high-end GPU produces.

Link: GeForce RTX 3060 Family | NVIDIA

Hope this is helpful.

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur777

[Prométhée]

Indeed @NonSequitur777  I know very well these indications which are delivered by Nvidia
I also advise most often not to choose a power supply unit that is too tight..
This is why I also indicate to the user @Jmancometh678  that if he has no choice, rather than going through hacks, he could revise these requirements downwards, and compare the models with manufacturer requirements
Nvidia makes this clear too.
Recommendation based on a PC configured with an Intel Core i9-10980XE processor. A lower power rating is acceptable depending on the system configuration.

Note: The specifications above correspond to the GPU used in NVIDIA's reference model. Frequency specifications apply to gaming experiences with standard to maximum GPU usage. Graphics specifications may vary by each third-party vendor. Please visit the manufacturer's website for detailed specifications.

It would therefore be possible to install a power supply of 500w maximum, here, all that remains is to make a choice
But too bad, that we are so limited, with computers mentioned type gamer

[NonSequitur777]

@Prométhée,

Yes, you absolutely nailed this: it really is too bad that we are so limited in HP-provided PSU upgrades...

I would have no problem purchasing HP-provided upgraded power supply units, even if they were more expensive than industry-standard ATX PSUs.

You know there are two main power conversion options available: first there are various so-called "ATX 24-Pin To 6-Pin Adapter Power Converters" made for actually quite a few legacy HP computers -and more coming, and secondly, then there are the "ATX 24-Pin Power Supply Adapter with SATA (or Molex) Connectors" which can be universally used most specifically to power high-end power consuming GPUs (see picture below with both options illustrated).

In my own experience with both options over many months of experimenting/trials with a number of legacy HP computers, I found that these power supply conversions are safe, reliable and effective.  In my admittedly anecdotal experience, I have yet to observe motherboard error messages, "hot spots", discolored wires, arcing, smoke, or any other undesirable electric or electronic malfunctions.

However, as I have frequently pointed out in numerous "Disclaimers": these power conversion options are not endorsed, assessed or approved by HP.  Apply these options at your own risk and please be advised that application of these converters will void any warranty on your computer.  As a matter of fact, unless a User is reasonably computer/mechanically-savvy, one should not even attempt to apply these options.

Kind Regards / Sincères Amitiés,

NonSequitur777

[Jmancometh678]

So, since you are an expert perhaps you can clarify this for me before i move forward with any future gpu purchases....i have been surfing youtube trying to find all the information....and i come across this guy. He seems to imply that all TG01 models will accept the hp 500w psu, as well as a 3070 if i sucessfully upgrade the PSU. Is there any truth to this, because if so that would be awesome. 

I have added the video link here if you are curious:HP Pavilion TG01 Upgraded to the MAX! RTX 3070 & 500 Watt PSU - YouTube

[NonSequitur777]

@Jmancometh678,

Yes, the HP 500 watt PSU is compatible, but -since you asked for my expert opinion, this power supply is insufficient (or at the very least majorly underwhelming) to provide max graphics utilization power for an RTX 3070.

So, I would still strongly suggest to go ahead and sync an external power supply through an ATX 24-pin to SATA 4-pin Power Supply Adapter as I suggested in an earlier message, and using that to power your RTX 3070, and keep your existing power supply as is.

I would suggest at least getting a 600 watt PSU. As a matter of fact, for future upgrade purposes, you may as well consider an 850+ watt (preferably fully modular) PSU.

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur

[NonSequitur777]

@Jmancometh678,

Please see my HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF upgrade link for additional information regarding syncing a secondary power supply: https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Business-PCs-Workstations-and-Point-of-Sale-Systems/Upgrading-HP-Elite...

DISCLAIMER: NOT ENDORSED BY HP.

Kind Regards,

NonSequitur777