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Upgrading the 7500-200nd (Graphics, RAM, Storage, Motherboard?)

HP ENVY Desktop - 750-200nd (ENERGY STAR)
Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit)

A couple of days ago I did a UserBenchMark, which made me come to the following conclusions:

Graphics:
30.9% is a below average 3D score (GTX 1070 = 100%). This GPU can handle older games but it will struggle to render recent games at resolutions greater than 1080p. (Note: general computing tasks don't require 3D graphics)

Thus now I'm checking for options of graphics cards that fit into my (standard) casing that come with the 750-200nd. For this I'm looking online since I don't really want to guess dimensions by using a measuring tape or anything.
I could pretty much only find this document which only told me the following:

  • The Motherboard has a 1 PCI Express x16 (Gen 3.0) slot
    (which is good, since most recent graphics cards use these kinds of slots)
  • The current Graphics Card is a GTX 960 2 GB DDR5
    Power usage: < 120 W
    Form factor: ATX
    Dimensions: 17.5 cm x 11.2 cm (6.9 in x 4.4 in)

What should I be looking for when buying a new graphics card and making sure it fits?

Memory / RAM:
It's fine for now, yet I'd like to make it future-proof by upgrading it to 16GB.
From the document we know that:

  • Current RAM is
    Type: DDR3L-1600
    Size: 12 GB
  • Possible expansions can be:
    Slots: (2x) 240-pin DDR3L DIMM socket
    Type:  DDR3L-1333 or DDR3L-1600 (prefer the latter)
    Max size: 8 GB DIMMs
    Max RAM: Up to 16GB for 64-bit systems

Which kind of confuses me. From the manifacturer of the processor, we see that the max memory as stated in this document is defined by

  • Memory Types: DDR4-1866/2133 or DDR3L-1333/1600
  • Memory Max Size: 64 GB
  • Max Memory Channels: 2

So this means that my motherboard is limiting me to use only DDR3L, which is fine, but it is restricting me to using only 16GB? And the benchmark and my task manager tell me that actually, the speed isn't 1600 Mhz, but 1867 or 1866 Mhz (does this have to do with overclocking?).
So the real question regarding the RAM should be:
Should we upgrade the motherboard in order to use DDR4 and be able to expand in a better fashion?

 

Motherboard:

This could be the real bottleneck, since it connects all components and seems to be limiting our RAM usage. Might also hold us up on the current graphics card size, compared to the GTX 960 that is currently in it.

Once again, from the hp document we find that:

  • Form factor: uATX which is 24x24 cm (9.4x9.4 in)
  • Chipset: H110
  • Ram Sockets: (2x) DDR3L (as we know)
  • Processor Socket: LGA 1151
  • Expansion Slots
    • 1 PCI Express x16 (Gen 3.0)
    • 1 PCI Express x1 (Gen 2.0)
    • One M.2 socket 1, key A

Which leads to a couple of questions:

  1. Could I fit in an ATX-sized motherboard?
  2. Maybe a very generic question, but what does this chipset tell me and why should I care?
  3. This socket is quite future proof right?
  4. In terms of expansion, what about storage?

 

Storage:

It's okay.. but it's full 🙄
Currently we've got:

  • Samsung MZ7LN256HCHP-000 (1 TB HDD)
  • Samsung SSD 850 EVO (250GB SSD (containing Windows))

Could I add another HDD / SDD?



Thanks in advance for anyone wanting to help!

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@ShooterBoyX , welcome to the forum.

 

The best way to know if a graphics card will fit into your case is measure the space where it will be installed from the Back I/O ports to the front of the case.  Make certain that there is enough space to allow for good airflow.  This is absolutely necessary with the newer cards.  I always search for any components on Newegg.com because they give the most information on their products.  Now, the thing that will limit which card you can install is the power supply unit (PSU).  The current PSU is only 300W.  There are very few newer cards that will run properly with this amount of wattage.  Most of them require a minimum of 400W.  I usually recommend at least 100W to 150W more than the graphics card requires.  I like Corsair products.

 

Q:  Which leads to a couple of questions:

  1. Could I fit in an ATX-sized motherboard?  HP has their motherboards made to their specifications.  Therefore, they are not necessarily the same as a retail board.  This may mean that the mounting holes won't match the stand-offs in the case.  You could choose a motherboard manufacturer and contact their Tech Support to see if they can tell you which of their boards would work with the HP case.
  2. Maybe a very generic question, but what does this chipset tell me and why should I care?  Here is a very good explanation of what a chipset is and does:  https://www.howtogeek.com/287206/what-is-a-chipset-and-why-should-i-care/
  3. This socket is quite future proof right?  At this moment it appears to be.  What will come tomorrow is an unknown.
  4. In terms of expansion, what about storage?  See below.

 

Storage:

It's okay.. but it's full 


Currently we've got:

  • Samsung MZ7LN256HCHP-000 (1 TB HDD)
  • Samsung SSD 850 EVO (250GB SSD (containing Windows))

Could I add another HDD / SDD?  I believe that you have only one M.2 socket.  This is being used.  If you have an empty 3.5" drive bay you can install a SSD or HDD.  Here are the SSD's that Crucial Memory recommends for your computer.  You will need a SATA power cable and data cable.

 

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