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10-15-2020 12:12 PM
I have a HP 550-153w with 6G RAM, intel i3-4170, intel HD graphics 4400. I am looking to upgrade to 16G RAM (no prob, I can handle that) and upgrade the processor and graphics. The recommended for the new Flight Simulator is: min 8G RAM, intel i5-4460 I AMD Ryzen 3 1200, Nvidia GTX 770 I AMD Radeon RX 570. The recommended is 16G RAM, intel i5 8400 I AMD Ryzen 5 1500X, and Nvidia GTX 970 I AMD Radeon RX 590.
The spec sheet says I can upgrade to
So, if I upgrade the processor with its built in graphics, do I need to add a graphics card?
10-15-2020 12:22 PM - edited 10-15-2020 12:30 PM
Actually the answer is a resounding "NO". There is no way to reach the recommended level. The I7-4790T is 20% less performance that the i5-8400, which you can not even use.
Too many have asked that question, so I have a stock answer for you: There are 3 levels of play. You mentioned minimum levels. I will not discuss that level, it is just too meager and ultimately frustrating.
MSFS2020
If you have the recommended CPU:
Intel i5-8400, and 16GB motherboard RAM, GTX 1060 4 GB Video RAM
If you want the better play, CPU:
Intel i7-9800X and 32GB motherboard RAM, 8GB Video RAM RTX 2080 level card.
Now the RTX 3000 series is coming available, either the RTX 3080 or the RTX 3070
PSU of 750W-850W. That means do not purchase any of the TP01, TE01, TG01, or M01 series. All those have an HP proprietary designed PSU, and will not satisfy your needs. Ask before you leap.
Best style MSFS joysticks are running $240-280
So to play a $120 program you will spend: computer(see below) $2700+ joystick + MSFS2020 = $3100 USD.
If you wait for an HP 875-1040ST (customized) with a 1TB NVMe SSD, 1-2 TB data drive, RTX 3070 or 3080, and wired mouse/keyboard. The problem will be the PSU, IMHO the RTX 3080 in this configuration needs an 850W PSU. The specification page only shows an RTX 2080 and Shadow 750W.
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10-15-2020 12:39 PM - edited 10-15-2020 12:49 PM
I surmise the true hurts.
Another OP with an HP550 bit the dust, and it was shutting down.
https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/I-cant-run-Flt-Sim-2020-on-my-computer/td-p/7788143
HP Envy 8 5010 Tablet
(2) HP DV7t i7 3160QM 2.3Ghz 8GB
Printer -- HP OfficeJet Pro 8620 Legal
Custom Asus Z97D, I7-4790k, 16GB RAM, WIN10 Pro 64bit, ZOTAC GTX1080 AMP Extreme 3 fan 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD, Asus PB287 4k monitor, Rosewill Blackhawk case and 750W OCZ PSU.
10-15-2020 12:58 PM
The i7-4790K is the most powerful CPU, it is 22% above the i5-4690. But the I7-4790K is still 20% below the minimum recommended CPU chip. Piling on a new GPU (if the card length would fit) and a new PSU still will not overcome the CPU chip.
HP Envy 8 5010 Tablet
(2) HP DV7t i7 3160QM 2.3Ghz 8GB
Printer -- HP OfficeJet Pro 8620 Legal
Custom Asus Z97D, I7-4790k, 16GB RAM, WIN10 Pro 64bit, ZOTAC GTX1080 AMP Extreme 3 fan 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD, Asus PB287 4k monitor, Rosewill Blackhawk case and 750W OCZ PSU.