HP 22-b022 AIO system recovery DVD

[mdklassen]

>>  There are other faults in Windows that anti-virus software does not detect.

---> Quite true but I never seen WIndows promts me a warning about that file this file is a trojan or virus except the Norton or McAfee or MalwareBytes or etc.

After a security-update to prevent the hacker's exploit, you are correct -- Windows does not pop-up a window.

It just "blocks" the  "payload" of the exploit.  It might report "this file is corrupt".

---> The MalwareBytes đi show me the Hacker's IP # is attacking sometimes from Brazil, Russia, Amsterdam etc

What if the computer at that IP-address itself has been hacked?

It has become a "zombie", doing the bidding of a hacker on a different continent.

What do you do with the IP-address?

Do you access www.arin.net to find the network-administrator who controls that IP-address?

Do you inform that person that there is a compromised computer on their network?

> then catch my MAC-address to hack on mine for week

Nonsense.

If you have any "router" (either connected to a DSL-modem or a cable-modem), then the MAC-address of your computer never leaves your router. The MAC-address of the router is revealed to the ISP's own network, but is not transmitted over any "bridge" to any other network.

If you connect your computer directly to the DSL-modem (or cable-modem), then only the ISP can see your MAC-address.

For example, if a company, such as INTEL, manufactures two network-cards, they will have very similar, but unique, MAC-addresses.  One network-card could be sold to a customer in ALASKA, and one could be sold to a customer in MIAMI. So, if you have a 11/12ths of a specific MAC-address, the computer could be in ALASKA or MIAMI, and you have *NO* way of determining where the network-card is.  None.

> Sometimes to restore the system by using Windows itself Create a Point/Date in Systems Protection and the restore failed too .

Yes, "spit happens" -- no program is "bug-free".

>> Have you tried connecting a brand-new disk-drive, along with a download of the 1803 version of Windows,

>> via: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

>> to install a "supported" version of Windows onto that brand-new disk-drive?

> I never try brand new HD

I cannot help you, if you don't try my advice.

> I downloaw the 1607 ISO a week ago and istall it on my machine but it says Not for this machine,

> and while mine is running with 1607 at present.

You did something wrong, e.g., downloaded the 64-bit version of Windows, and then try to install it on an older processor that does not support 64-bit Windows.  Give more technical details, e.g,. from where you downloaded 1607, and more details about your motherboard & processor, if you want "technical" assistance.

> but may failed on this mdae specifically for HP 22-b022 AIO hardware

Please supply more "technical" details, if you want technical assistance.

[Afina]

@After a security-update to prevent the hacker's exploit, you are correct -- Windows does not pop-up a window.

It just "blocks" the "payload" of the exploit. It might report "this file is corrupt".

---> All of computers I have with windows XP, W7, W8.1 and now W10 they never
prompt me a thing. In my Dell laptop W7 I have MS-Antivirus which is Microsoft Security Essentials but can not compare with Norton or McAfee, one time I plug
the USB-Clone-HD-W10 of the HP to the Dell not to boot from Dell but just to see what inside the USB-HD then the Microsoft Security Essentials do something like to prevent "an attacker" from the USB-HD and it prompts "All security have done to protect your system " etc .... which I do not know what in it but I assume because both are created from the MS so they do not want anything mixed up

@What if the computer at that IP-address itself has been hacked?
---> That can prevent by the Router/Security setup

@It has become a "zombie", doing the bidding of a hacker on a different continent.

What do you do with the IP-address?

----> I just make a record to Notepad all of the hacker's IP# to see how manytime they try to look into my systems

@Do you access www.arin.net to find the network-administrator who controls that IP-address?

Do you inform that person that there is a compromised computer on their network?

----> I do not know about that, may be I'll look into that later, all hackers
are years ago in my all XP or W81 but because I did not use those computer for
a long period of time so the hackers drop or may be they you do a random looking around and may be because I use Apps to delete Junk files and delete
Registry so they lost my machine perhaps ?!

@Nonsense.

If you have any "router" (either connected to a DSL-modem or a cable-modem), then the MAC-address of your computer never leaves your router. The MAC-address of the router is revealed to the ISP's own network, but is not transmitted over any "bridge" to any other network.

If you connect your computer directly to the DSL-modem (or cable-modem), then only the ISP can see your MAC-address.

For example, if a company, such as INTEL, manufactures two network-cards, they will have very similar, but unique, MAC-addresses. One network-card could be sold to a customer in ALASKA, and one could be sold to a customer in MIAMI. So, if you have a 11/12ths of a specific MAC-address, the computer could be in ALASKA or MIAMI, and you have *NO* way of determining where the network-card is. None.

-----> In the reality all Routers have their own way for protection but also
a gitch and the users never know it until the Router Company do some update or
the users turn it of and trun it on like a coldboot, thats what I think and I m not the expert

@Yes, "spit happens" -- no program is "bug-free".

---> That wht I meant to 1803/W10 too

@I cannot help you, if you don't try my advice.

You did something wrong, e.g., downloaded the 64-bit version of Windows, and then try to install it on an older processor that does not support 64-bit Windows. Give more technical details, e.g,. from where you downloaded 1607, and more details about your motherboard & processor, if you want "technical" assistance.

-----> That wht I had been telling my story about the W10 keep auto-update to 1803 or even some normal routine like Cumulative KB######## and I use that KB##### to look into the Microsoft Update Catalog and it tell me that Cumulative is for AMD/CPU and no wonder why it keeps failed because mine is Intel/CPU

@Please supply more "technical" details, if you want technical assistance.

-----> Thats all I need for now and its all set, I keep mine 1607 and keep the broken HP-USB-Recovery and in case I need to fix mine I will do the uncomplete Restore form that broken HP-USB-Stick then use the Paragon-15

It works for me that way or HP have to explain why the USB-Recovery did not completely restore to my HP 22-b022 AIO but I skip that complain and assume the HP can not have the answer

[mdklassen]

@After a security-update to prevent the hacker's exploit, you are correct -- Windows does not pop-up a window.

It just "blocks" the "payload" of the exploit. It might report "this file is corrupt".

---> All of computers I have with windows XP, W7, W8.1 and now W10 they never prompt me a thing.

What does that prove?

I suppose that this is "good" -- either no malicious software was detected, or the anti-virus software "silently" detected/blocked/quarantined the malicious software.

> one time I plug the USB-Clone-HD-W10 of the HP to the Dell, not to boot from Dell but just to see what inside the USB-HD then the Microsoft Security Essentials do something like to prevent "an attacker" from the USB-HD

You probably have the anti-virus software configured to automatically scan all newly-attached devices, and that is what happened to you.

> it prompts "All security have done to protect your system " etc.

After the scan has concluded, it pops-up that message.  Is that a problem?

> which I do not know what in it but I assume because both are created from the MS so they do not want anything mixed up

I do not understand.

After you created the "clone", you could have connected the external disk-drive to some other computer, where some malicious software could have been added to the disk-drive.  So, the anti-virus software is trying to protect you.  Is that a bad thing for it to do? No!

 @What if the computer at that IP-address itself has been hacked?
---> That can prevent by the Router/Security setup

Nonsense.

You never know whether the hacker is physically touching the computer with the IP-address that is "attacking" you, or whether the hacker is on a different continent, with remote-access to that "attacking" computer, i.e., that IP-address could be a "zombie" under control of the hacker.

Also, if you are using a router between the ISP's cable-modem (or DSL-modem) and your computer, that router, by default, is blocking all "unsolicited" incoming IP-addresses.  So, the "firewall" software on your computer never "sees" that traffic, and thus never reports anything to you.

Compare to having a security-guard at the only entrance to your home.

Without the correct credentials, any person cannot get past the security-guard.

If you are in a different room, you will not see the security-guard's action of blocking that person.

In fact, none of your family, each in their own rooms, will see the security-guard's actions.

If you ask any family member "did some person come into your room", they would answer "no", because they will not know what the security-guard did, unless the security-guard "broadcasts" their action to all the family members.

What do you do with the IP-address?

----> I just make a record to Notepad all of the hacker's IP# to see how manytime they try to look into my systems

If you can see the IP-address, the "firewall" component of your "Internet Security" package already is recording those IP-addresses.  Just check its "log-files" for details.  So, you are duplicating, slowly, what your "firewall" package is already doing, in a few microseconds.

@Do you access www.arin.net to find the network-administrator who controls that IP-address?

Do you inform that person that there is a compromised computer on their network?

----> I do not know about that, may be I'll look into that later,

OK.  You must "report" the IP-address, if you ever want to stop the hacking-attempts from that IP-address.

> all hackers are years ago in my all XP or W81 but because I did not use those computer for a long period of time so the hackers drop or may be they you do a random looking around and may be because I use Apps to delete Junk files and delete Registry so they lost my machine perhaps ?!

None of your deletions and registry-modifications are applicable to blocking an attacker.

I will guess that a long time ago, your XP computer was directly-connected to the ISP's modem, and was directly exposed to the IP-address of those "zombie" computers, and your "firewall" software popped-up a message for each unsolicited packet, showing the IP-address.

But, now, you have multiple devices (iPhone, tablet, laptop, desktop, Smart-TV) all connecting through your wired/wireless router, to share your Internet connection.  So, that router is blocking all the "unsolicited" incoming traffic, because you have not programmed the router to "forward" such unsolicited traffic to one specific computer on your home network.

So, unless you look at the router's "log-files", you will never know whether the hackers have stopped -- unlikely -- or whether the router is protecting all the computers in your home network, by "dropping" all such unsolicited traffic.

-----> In the reality all Routers have their own way for protection but also a

gitch and the users never know it until the Router Company do some update or the users turn it

of and trun

it on like a coldboot, thats what I think and I m not the expert

Yes, some routers can be, and have been, exploited by hackers on the Internet.

The manufacturers have responded with a security-update to the software inside the router.

You did something wrong, e.g., downloaded the 64-bit version of Windows, and then try to install it on an older processor that does not support 64-bit Windows. Give more technical details, e.g,. from where you downloaded 1607, and more details about your motherboard & processor, if you want "technical" assistance.

-----> That wht I had been telling my story about the W10 keep auto-update to 1803 or even some normal routine like Cumulative KB######## and I use that KB##### to look into the Microsoft Update Catalog and it tell me that Cumulative is for AMD/CPU and no wonder why it keeps failed because mine is Intel/CPU

You are misinterpreting the KB (Knowledge Base) article.

Any specific update either applies to 32-bit Windows, or to 64-bit Windows.

The terminology used to associate an update with 32-bit Windows is 'X86'.

The terminology used to associate an update with 64-bit Windows is 'X64'.

Example: http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/ScopedViewInline.aspx?updateid=e13a1770-08b4-4f08-9f83-d...

Update Details

2018-07 Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64-based Systems (KB4100347)

Last Modified: 7/24/2018

Size: 1.2 MB

Architecture: AMD64 , X86

Classification: Updates

Supported products: Windows 10

The descriptor 'AMD64' includes both 64-bit Intel processors and 64-bit AMD processors.

It's a bit of a "dated" descriptor, because AMD marketed 64-bit processors before Intel did.

Please  "rest  assured" that Windows Update is selecting only the correct updates that are applicable to the processor inside your computer. 

@Please supply more "technical" details, if you want technical assistance.

-----> Thats all I need for now and its all set, I keep mine 1607 and keep the broken HP-USB-Recovery and in case I need to fix mine I will do the uncomplete Restore form that broken HP-USB-Stick then use the Paragon-15

It works for me that way or HP have to explain why the USB-Recovery did not completely restore to my HP 22-b022 AIO but I skip that complain and assume the HP can not have the answer

Please supply the "technical" details of why the USB containing the HP System Recovery Set does not work. What happens? What did you expect to happen? What error-messages do you get?

[Afina]

It is very lengthy but I only consume for one example

QUOTE: "None of your deletions and registry-modifications are applicable to blocking an attacker."

---> I think it works not 100% and all depends on wht attaker got my MAc address or cookies etc

Exp: When the MS Auto Update  (attacker) to my systems and I can hear the internal hard drive keep crunching running for download

may be to Windows/Prefetch folder or Update Assisstant and I use Delete Junk File and Reboot that stop the Autoupdate from MS and it says "Something wrong to update your systems ...etc. " I assume n  I remember that

But after that the MS vs Online from Bellvue-WA 's team or else they dispatched and change tatic to  into my system with hidden location into mine and  I can not find where it be and the MS asks me to restart for update or even to the point

I click shutdown then when I turn the comp On the new  W10 such as 1803 start to update ... Big thing is its installation  failed ???????????????????????????????????????? 

In other words, I would buy a new Sysems with W10 (1803) preinstalled

Today mine  HP 22-b022 AIO  running cool and super fine, why would I try to update to 1803 to my old  Intel CPU J3710/1.6HHZ  

Wish you are in my home to figure out and I believe you will not figure out

Bill Gates can not answer either 🙂

PS: This is out of topic but my Orthodontic is the same Bill Gates's Orthodontic Dr (Robert) near UW thats wht the Dr. told me decades decades ago and he was a Professor, by now he can be ilongone in the Heaven  RIP Sir !

[Afina]

The USB Clone/Error save my soul

[Afina]

W10 1803 cant do
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[mdklassen]

> The USB Clone/Error save my soul.

What steps did you take, to "paint yourself into this corner" ?

There is a large difference between "cloning" a disk-drive, to make a copy of it, and "installing" software, targeting a different disk-drive.

As the messages state, you cannot choose to install Windows onto a USB memory-stick.

Windows does let you create a "System Recovery Set", ny writing to an empty USB memory-stick, but that is not "installing Windows".

[Afina]

‎08-28-2018 10:06 AM

> The USB Clone/Error save my soul.

@What steps did you take, to "paint yourself into this corner" ?

There is a large difference between "cloning" a disk-drive, to make a copy of it, and "installing" software, targeting a different disk-drive.

-> There is no USB Cloning hooks to my HP 22-b022 AIO system but the msg keeps repeated itself so I take the advantage of the error and happy with it because I do not want the W10-1803 into my 1607 

@As the messages state, you cannot choose to install Windows onto a USB memory-stick.

Again -> There is no USB Cloning  or USB Recovery Stick hook to my HP 22-b022 AIO system

@Windows does let you create a "System Recovery Set", ny writing to an empty USB memory-stick, but that is not "installing Windows".

-> My ->   HP 22-b022 AIO system now wont let me to do backUp/Image anyway but the 1803 quietly trying to install directly into my 1607 version and failed

I do not want 1803 and I want to keep 1607, 1803 failed is good for me, the MS keeps attacking my system not as my will

I believe the MS is watching this topic and try to figureout

Thank to mdklassen  Dean

I live n learn 🙂

[mdklassen]

> I do not want 1803 and I want to keep 1607.

In a few weeks, Microsoft will release '1809'.

After they do:

1. download the new version, and create the bootable installer,
2. temporarily remove your disk-drive from your computer, mark it, and set it aside,
3. purchase a brand-new disk-drive, and install '1809' onto it.

You have a "digital entitlement" to reinstall Windows 10, at any time, at no cost, onto the "same" computer.

Changing the disk-drive does not make it a "not-same" computer.

If it installs, as it should, then your problems with '1803' will be irrelevant, and you will have a "supported" operating system for at least 18 to 24 months.

Copy all your personal files from the "old" disk-drive onto the "new" disk-drive.

Reinstall your programs (Office? Adobe? SPECCY? Audacity? VLC?)

Done, and you have a brand-new, in-warranty, disk-drive, and a supported release of Windows that has all the security-updates that MIcrosoft did not release for '1607' in May/June/July/August 2018 - after the "sunset" of '1607' in April 2018.

[Afina]

Thank you for this one, I'll think about it because my machine is old compare to 1803 or 1809

Thanks again