Upgrading my (HP Compaq dc5850 Small Form Factor ) AMD processor ...

[The_elder_bird]

Peace upon you

Upgrading my desktop HP Compaq DC 5850 small form factor PC , i have contacted with an HP agent in a chat session , She gave this link to know my board compatible choices for processor ,Ram and graphic card 

https://h10057.www1.hp.com/ecomcat/hpcatalog/specs/provisioner/99/ND234UC.htm

My problem now is :
I m not sure of chipset model in that link because cpuz program says its (780G) while link says (780V)

also link didn't say anything about RAM upgrade limit which made me buy 1066 MHZ RAM but my mobo read it 800MHZ , i have lost 160 $ in that 😞

I m going now to buy Phenom II X4 810 AMD processor but i have to know if it will work before buying it

My question is :
Is there any difference - as it appears - between 780 G & 780 V ?
And if so , Which processor should i buy for upgrade.

Thanks

[lasvegaswireman · Accepted solution]

From your link;

AMD Sempron LE-1250 processor (2.2 GHz, 512 K L2 cache, HT bus
1.0); AMD Sempron LE-1300 processor (2.3 GHz, 512 KB L2 cache, HT bus 1.0); AMD
Athlon 64 LE-1640B processor (2.7 GHz, 512 KB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0); AMD Athlon
X2 4450B processor (2.3 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0); AMD Athlon X2 4850B
processor (2.5 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0); AMD Athlon X2 5000B processor
(2.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0); AMD Athlon X2 5200B processor (2.7 GHz, 1
MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0); AMD Athlon X2 5400B processor (2.8 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache,
HT bus 2.0); AMD Athlon X2 5600B processor (2.9 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0);
AMD Athlon X2 5800+ processor (3.0 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0); AMD Athlon
X2 6000+ processor (3.1 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache, HT bus 3.0); AMD Phenom II X2 550
processor (3.1 GHz, 1 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 6 MB Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0);
AMD Phenom X3 8600B processor (2.3 GHz, 1.5 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 2 MB Shared
L3 cache, HT bus 3.0); AMD Phenom X3 8850B processor (2.5 GHz, 1.5 MB Dedicated
L2 cache, 2 MB Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0); AMD Phenom II X3 710 processor (2.6
GHz, 1.5 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 6 MB Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0); AMD Phenom X4
9600B processor (2.3 GHz, 2 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 2 MB Shared L3 cache, HT bus
3.0); AMD Phenom X4 9850B processor (2.5 GHz, 2 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 2 MB
Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0); AMD Phenom II X4 805 processor (2.5 GHz, 2 MB
Dedicated L2 cache, 4 MB Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0); AMD Phenom II X4 810
processor (2.6 GHz, 2 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 4 MB Shared L3 cache, HT bus
3.0)

And from the HP Compaq dc5850 Business Computer Quickspecs;

AMD Sempron Dual-Core Processors with HyperTransport™ Technology:
AMD Sempron X2 2200 Processor (2.0-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 2.0)
AMD Sempron Processors with HyperTransport Technology:
AMD Sempron LE-1300 Processor (2.3-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 1.0)
AMD Sempron LE-1250 Processor (2.2-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 1.0)
AMD Athlon Single-Core Processors with HyperTransport Technology:
AMD Athlon LE-1640B Processor (2.7-GHz, 512K L2 cache, HT bus 2.0)
AMD Athlon Dual-Core Processors with HyperTransport Technology:
AMD Athlon X2 7750 Processor (2.7-GHz, 1MB L2 cache, 2 MB Shared L3 cache,
HT bus 3.0)
AMD Athlon X2 6000+ Processor (3.1-GHz, 1MB L2 cache, HT bus 3.0)
AMD Athlon X2 5800+ Processor (3.0-GHz, 1MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0)
AMD Athlon X2 5600B Processor (2.9-GHz, 1MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0)
AMD Athlon X2 5400B Processor (2.8-GHz, 1MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0)
AMD Athlon X2 5200B Processor (2.7-GHz, 1MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0)
AMD Athlon X2 5000B Processor (2.6-GHz, 1MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0)
AMD Athlon X2 4850B Processor (2.5-GHz, 1MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0)
AMD Athlon X2 4450B Processor (2.3-GHz, 1MB L2 cache, HT bus 2.0)
AMD Phenom Triple-Core Processors with HyperTransport Technology:
AMD Phenom II X3 710 Processor, (2.6-GHz, 1.5 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 6 MB
Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0)
AMD Phenom X3 8600B Processor (2.3-GHz, 1.5 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 2 MB
Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0)
AMD Phenom X3 8750B Processor (2.4-GHz, 1.5 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 2 MB
Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0)
AMD Phenom Quad-Core Processors with HyperTransport Technology:
AMD Phenom II X4 805 Processor, (2.5-GHz, 2 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 4 MB
Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0)
AMD Phenom X4 9600B Processor (2.3-GHz, 2 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 2 MB
Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0)
AMD Phenom X4 9750B Processor (2.4-GHz, 2 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 2 MB
Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0)
AMD Phenom X4 9850B processor (2.5 GHz, 2 MB Dedicated L2 cache, 2 MB
Shared L3 cache, HT bus 3.0)

and

512-MB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-MHz) Non ECC (1 x 512)
1-GB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-MHz) Non ECC (1 x 1GB)
1-GB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-MHz) Non ECC (2 x 512)
2-GB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-MHz) Non ECC (1 x 2GB)
2-GB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-MHz) Non ECC (2 x 1GB)
2-GB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-MHz) Non ECC (4 x 512)
3-GB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-MHz) Non ECC (3 x 1GB)
4-GB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-MHz) Non ECC (4 x 1GB)
4-GB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-MHz) Non ECC (2 x 2GB)
8-GB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-MHz) Non ECC (4 x 2GB)
16-GB DDR2 Synch Dram PC2-6400 (800-Mhz) Non ECC (4 x 4GB)

There are inconsistencies in the CPU selections... you may wish to contact HP Business again, to confirm what CPUs will work.

Please send KUDOs

[The_elder_bird]

Well thanks but what about chipset model question?

[lasvegaswireman]

All the documentation points to it being an AMD 780V, which according AMD is a business class chipset with integrated ATI Radeon™ 3100 graphics. The AMD 780G, according to AMD is a consumer class chipset with ATI Radeon™ HD 3200 graphics. It appears the core of the chipsets are the same and the program is mis-identifying the chipset.

Please send KUDOs

[The_elder_bird]

Great .. I think it safer to buy the 805 phenom II X4 processor as it s found in the two documents 
what say you?

[lasvegaswireman]

That should be a good choice. You may also consider updating the BIOS if the system is at a revision of less than 3.14

Please send KUDOs

[Gamma820]

Hi, i ahve a diffrent problem, its for upgrading my Graphics Card, i was woundering what the limit was for that, i have the same computer Hp Compaq small form factor dc5850, so if you guys can help me out at all ill be greatful. Thanks

[Cloud_Strider]

@Gamma820,

The limiting factor is going to be the power supply.  According to this document, the small form factor has a 240W power supply.  It does have a PCIe X16 slot, so a newer card will work as long as it is a low-profile card.
 

If you don't want to upgrade the power supply along with it, you can upgrade to one of the cards starting on page 28 of the document.

[Gamma820]

Ok, thank you very much for the info, i appreciate it, the next  time some one askes my about upgrading my computer ill tell them to come here.

[Cloud_Strider]

You are most welcome.  I'm glad the information was helpful.  Thanks for updating the community.  🙂