OMEN HP 880-051ng --> RTX 2070 Super

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Hi Prométhée,

Thanks for your answer. 

• "This is what I said from the start, if the power supply is not sufficient, we can expect problems" This is true, you also mentioned "Nvidia is based on one graphics card model, and on a certain computer configuration!" which is also true. Depending the configuration, you will get different power consumptions.

My CPU is i7 7700, with max 65w power consumption. This is the the PSU calculator values with the rtx 2060 Ti: https://outervision.com/b/RhXTco that is assuming 100% CPU utilisation and 8 hours gaming per day, which is definitely not going to be my usual case.

• ''I bought a RTX 3060 Ti. I will check if I can find the link''

Sorry, forgot about it with all the research. I bought the Zotac GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Twin Edge. Zotac recommends 650w for an overclocked system. This review proposed 550w for an overclocked GPU model (mine is not OC): https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/zotac_geforce_rtx_3060_ti_twin_edge_oc_review,5.html 

At the beginning of this page review, they state: "Purchase a quality power supply, calculate/estimate your peak power consumption for the entire PC, and double that number for the power supply as your PSU is most efficient at half the load value. So, if during gaming you consume 300W Watts on average for the entire PC, we'd recommend a 600 Watt power supply as a generic rule." So clearly my PSU is going to run above 50% of capacity, but also definitely below 100%.

The Zotac GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Twin Edge has a 8 pin power connector, exactly the same as the GTX 1070 the system came with. I used the same 6+2 pin, which is the same as with the previous GPU.

• "Then there can always be another problem, but there anyway, is it when replacing the graphics card, that you have these beeps now?"

Yes, that is correct. But the beeps might be due to some other reason besides the PSU. As far as I can tell from the information at HP, the motherboard is compatible with all PCIe 3.0 cards which support this connection type.

Is there anyway you could help me identify what is the real meaning of this beeps, as you are an HP expert? I can give you specific information on the motherboard (Naples) if needed.

The bios seems to be built by American Megatrends, under HP license. By this rule, 4 beeps should equal "system timer failure" according to this link:  https://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm Is HP changing the beep code of motherboards?

Last but not least, could you please let me know if my motherboard is working with any ATX PSU or it has custom connector?

Thank you in advance for your help!!!

[Prométhée]

Well I find for this same card that it is recommended to have a 650w power supply
https://www.zotac.com/fr/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-twin-edge#spec

So, I do not see why to look any further, the power supply is certainly insufficient for this model.
then the best would be to opt for a less greedy model!
At hp there are usually two options for this 500 and 750w box:

I cannot say if a commercial model will be used

https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/omen-by-hp-880-100-desktop-pc-series/18695893/document/c0584763...

919937-800   Il n'est pas possible de commander cette pièce : HP Part Partners peut vous aider. Cliquez ici.   Power Supply - GNRC, 750W ES ATX Platinum Lyra   RoHS: COMPLY_2.06

this is the part number given on the hp parts site with the model number shown

we do not have all HP error codes of all models here
I am only a simple user with the expert title, following many years of mutual assistance on the French Forum
That doesn't make me an IT / Hp technician.
here I think I have covered the question ..

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Hi there,

Thanks for your answer. I thought you worked for HP, sorry about that.

• "So, I do not see why to look any further, the power supply is certainly insufficient for this model."

But you know, as you stated in your first post, that those values are estimates depending on configuration. I just do not think I can straight suppose it is the same case to my current PC. Watts calculators based on my equipment show I am actually below the PSU capabilities:  https://outervision.com/b/RhXTco

• "then the best would be to opt for a less greedy model!!

I honestly have not found any other Nvidia GPU model between the original GTX1070 and nowadays model which offers less power consumption and some sort of performance improvement given my current hardware...

Appreciate the input, do you know if my motherboard also accepts third party PSUs? I do not feel fully comfortable with purchasing a HP PSU given the my current experience with it. There is something fishy about this PSU, I suspect.

At the end it would be really great if anyone else could point me in the right direction of what those 4 beeps truly mean.

Thanks and have a nice weekend!

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A little update to anyone who is following on this topic, even when its more like a monolog by now 😂

I bought a new PSU and changed it for the HP one, an step I would have really liked to avoid but wanted to check the card anyway. After changing it and powering the PC up, the same 4 beeps were present, showing me that the problem has never been the PSU, but something else.

I went into BIOS, deactivated "Legacy Mode" and activated "Safe Boot" (as I had to do the opposite before for the RTX 3060 Ti to work with the PC first time I swapped cards) and the beeps are gone.

In other words, the beeps had nothing to do with PSU being overloaded, it was just a BIOS issue with easy fix. Now I could revert to the original 500W and keep using the RTX 3060 Ti card. I hope my experience can help someone in the future with a similar issue.

Happy ending!

[hwsense]

Welp, as I said before, 500w would be plenty for this card, but you had to find out the hard way. 

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Well, certainly everyone in this forum knows better, but only after things have been tested.

You did not say much when the 4 beeps were there possibly warning of an overload PSU, nor when “Prométhée” stated several times that the PSU was insufficient for this GPU, or not even when I quoted you in support of your position...

I had to do it the “hard way” because no one could offer enough clarity over this PSU and GPU combination. Including you.

So yeah...”thanks” for your help...

[hwsense]

I am sorry that you feel that way, but you have to understand that this is not an open forum and HP experts are moderating answers all the time, I was warned multiple times not so suggest "underpowered" PSUs, so don't be mad at me, I am here to help. 

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Hey there,

Not mad at you at all, just bothered by your comment “but you had to find out the hard way”

Testing it myself was the only real way to know for certain, as there was a variety of opinions in this post and lack of knowledge of what the 4 beeps meant.

Trust me, I would have preferred to follow your first advice and go on with it, but those beeps were a warning of some sort and I did not want to destroy my PC.

At any case...issue is resolved and I hope this post serves for other people in a similar situation. However, a bit disappointing you have been warned for saying the truth.