performance hp Desktop X900-000nx

[FattysGoneWild]

HP got your money. They don't care sadly. Don't you notice all the reviews on youtube for these machines not 1 person talks about overclocking the cpu? Since they are getting them for free from HP of course they are not going to say a peep about that part. Yeah if you want real bios overclocking its going to take a new mobo or to save money.

You could use Intel XTU to overclock and it would work. They sell the case for custom builds so I see no reason why the led's would not work with the new mobo. You also might have to buy a new copy of Windows 10 as well because when you replace the mobo. It wont activate. MS might let you off the hook and just say the mobo died so you replaced it. 

That is a whole lot of coin to be stuck with that thing and still have to put out more money. You could probably raise some hell with HP and while it might be quite the ordeal. I have read of success from people HP buying back the machine since it does not do as advertised. 

[Darko71]

Right, they can pay me back 1500 USD and then it would be somewhat in the range the whole thing is actually worth and Ill keep the OMEN then modify it to be a real gaming rig so it would do what they "think" it should do

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Their OMEN division sux badly looks like a bunch of incompetent "geeks" driven by a moronic manager who doesn’t know sh*it about gaming industry and how things work obviously an corporative OFFICE PC Ahole on top of decision making.

I can give them all a freaking lecture about how things has to work and what it means when you spit out 2700+ USD and what it means to be in gaming realm with their hardware .

I will jump on every gaming forum . blog YouTube where ever I see anything related to this pile of sh*it they advertising as DOMINATING "thing" .... makes me lough ! 

If I were in US I would sue them this instant !

[FattysGoneWild]

Be prepared for a mod or someone from "HP" to reach out to you. Don't go in expecting a positive out come. Its just standard protocol when they read complaints on their forums. Just to try and make themselves look good like they care wanting to help. When they cant do either of those.  

[Darko71]

I’m very well aware of that BS with "kindly provide serial number and crap" that follows but NO!!  it is clear as day ...look at your own backyard, do things right and there will be no complains. 

And here there are facts ONLY no BS I provided living truth , facts , results ..what can they say in their defense ? nothing and they won’t ..as you mentioned they got their 2700USD one more unit on their seals list and "KPI performance sheet" mission accomplished.

If I had a chance for 2 days to test this unit out myself before buying it I would never go for it ..never for that money .

And when this kind of money is involved there is no room for mistakes or “we think it should be like that” period

[FattysGoneWild]

You should make a youtube video voicing your displeasure and warn people. Just try to keep it clean or youtube will flag it for language. You want a general audience to see it. Blast the sponsored reviews as well for not talking about this and hiding it. You have nothing to lose as you paid for it with your own money. People will be more willing to listen to customers like yourself that give an honest review. 

I cant believe HP went even 1 step further completely taking out the overclocking tab in the bios. Believe it or not. With the Phoenix series. They also allowed the changing of voltages with in the bios to allow proper overclocking. So they can certainly do it they are just being jerks about it. 

Of course it varied by model and mine was one of them with no voltage controls in the bios. My Phoenix is 2 years old next month. So I will never see bios that unlocks this stuff. But if HP gets it together. Its certainly not to late in your case. 

[Grzwacz]

Hello all

Previously posted to this. My home made PC cannot hit the high numbers posted in previous posts only because I am using an Nvidia 1060. My home built PC's MB and component temps were way better than the Omen system temps!

The OP was already having minor cooling issues (IMHO) and low benchmak scores. The Omen PC's seem to run hotter than I would like to see out of the box.

The best (overclocking) gaming PC's can only be custom built. Even the MB maker's giving full overclocking options in the BIOS  have issues with RMA's if you are overclocking and cook your motherboard because you have not done your due diligence.

You will never have full control of overclocking in BIOS with an OEM PC.  Overclocking makes more heat which adversely affects OEM cooling solutions implemented by OEM (HP, Dell, etc) engineers.

You can't blame OEM's. Overclocking stresses components and creates heat. Mainstream PC manufacturer's are looking at the bottom line. Would you like to honor warranties for fried OEM PC's because you gave consumers the option to overclock in the BIOS and bake the motherboard and other components?

On point is the fact HP promotes this product line as a PC that can be pushed to the limits. This is nonsense and you can blame the marketing unit for this.

Build your own PC if you want to overclock and get great game scores and awesome benchmark scores. Just make sure you keep the system temps under control.

Grzy

[FattysGoneWild]

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@Grzwacz wrote:

Hello all

Previously posted to this. My home made PC cannot hit the high numbers posted in previous posts only because I am using an Nvidia 1060. My home built PC's MB and component temps were way better than the Omen system temps!

The OP was already having minor cooling issues (IMHO) and low benchmak scores. The Omen PC's seem to run hotter than I would like to see out of the box.

The best (overclocking) gaming PC's can only be custom built. Even the MB maker's giving full overclocking options in the BIOS  have issues with RMA's if you are overclocking and cook your motherboard because you have not done your due diligence.

You will never have full control of overclocking in BIOS with an OEM PC.  Overclocking makes more heat which adversely affects OEM cooling solutions implemented by OEM (HP, Dell, etc) engineers.

You can't blame OEM's. Overclocking stresses components and creates heat. Mainstream PC manufacturer's are looking at the bottom line. Would you like to honor warranties for fried OEM PC's because you gave consumers the option to overclock in the BIOS and bake the motherboard and other components?

On point is the fact HP promotes this product line as a PC that can be pushed to the limits. This is nonsense and you can blame the marketing unit for this.

Build your own PC if you want to overclock and get great game scores and awesome benchmark scores. Just make sure you keep the system temps under control.

Grzy

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This is hog wash. Explain to me why then Alienware for example gives you FULL overclocking controls in the bios for cpu overclocking? They are an OEM Dell. They are not the only one to allow overclocking from the bios properly that is OEM. HP is the only one right now that blocks users from overclocking in the bios properly.

Even though they are selling gaming pc's with "K" series of cpu's advertising overclocking. How they are getting around this is by saying you can overclock. But one must use Intel XTU to get it done instead of being able to directly overclock from with in the bios. 

Getting back to Alienware real quick. They go 1 step further for customers regarding cpu overclocking. If they are afraid to tweak. They have preset options that one can pick and load in an instant that is guaranteed to work and been tested. What you are saying almost makes me think you work for HP in some form or another.  

As for customers potentially destroying their OEM systems. Hog wash again. OEM's can put protections with in the bios that will let you go so far and do so much yet they wont even do that in the bios! And you should read this here http://www.cio.com/article/2918054/hp-promises-warranty-on-overclocked-desktops-popular-with-gamers.... HP's own VP said they will cover the warranty if a customer chooses to overclock. 

At this point it is not about building a custom pc if you want to actually overclock in the bios. HP is selling these machines and advertising overclocking when one cannot do it through the bios properly. That is a shady business practice if you ask me. Go ahead HP I dare ya. Put a warning up on the website to let customers know you cant actually overclock from with in the bios properly.

Then lets see how many sales you get. But nope they wont do that. Man they would not like my review if they had sent me one to review. 

[Grzwacz]

I will not purchase any OEM PC ever again.

I have built my own PC and will upgrade to the best components that are available when I have extra dough.

Not defending any OEM. 

Dell Sucks. Open the system and look at what is inside. Again, not defending HP either. Have you ever reverse engineered a Dell or HP PC? I have. It is a nightmare compared to building your own PC.

Check out Falcon PC's.

Check other custom PC's. 

Build your own PC for the best experience. But now you are the OEM. So, you must be up to the task of solving all software and hardware problems when your PC has issues. There is no magic bullet.

That's what I did and I have made a good decision.

You can rant about HP all you want. Just build your own PC and then yell at yourself when bad things happen. 

There is no perfection in life. Accept what is and enjoy.

I am running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, on an Asus Z170  Pro Gaming/Aura RGB with a Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD. The 960 is running on PCIe 3x4 giving sweet data read and write speeds.

Had to jump through some hoops to get this system going. 

Grzy

[Darko71]

Sorry but looks like you didn’t follow and read the entire thread I clearly state I BULID MY OWN PCs for over 25 years I know everything about them and I always build TOP NOCH gaming rigs.

Now here where I’m am temporarily for work I DONT HAVE THE LUXURY OF BUYING COMPONENTS!!!! WHY ????? well I DONT FCKING KNOW they are JUST NOT AVALABLE but PRE-BUILD PC's like HP, DELL, ALIENWARE, RAZER….ARE! 

If I would buy components calculating the SHIPMENT + CUSTOMS fee it would pay even MORE I PAID FOR THE OMEN!

Now I hope we got that clear and straight .

Back home I build what I consider "MEDIA PC" on ASUS 170-A , I5 6600K , 8 GB DDR4 2666 HyperX , 2xSSD 256 1 x 2 TB SATA , BD ASUS external Drive ..now as I know what Z170 chipset is capable of OFCOURSE IM  FURIOS what hp did with the OMEN MUNICH S motherboard BIOS .

I don’t need lectures about BULIDING CUSTOM FCKING PCs! 

My Media PC, I just ad 32 GB and toss in a GTX1080 and I have a MIND BLOWING GAMEING RIG it is build that way firstly as media PC with future upgrade to a GAMEING RIG if necessary. I don’t even have to change the I5 toI7 as clearly when gaming is involved the CPU is basically IDLE which is AWSOME THING! 

And I have EVEY RIGHT ranting about hp , I paid for it , I have every right to do with it whatever I want ! there is no excuse for hp to lock the BIOS, period ! even not WARENTY WISE .

Imagine!! Ferrari sell you their uber super-duper high speed car advertising you can go 325kmh , you buy it then you find out it is LOCKED at 250 KMH ..is it fast ? of course it is ? but is it what it is built for and can do to the limits NO . And you start "ranting" then they say ..you know street regulations are 250max  so we disabled the 8th gear and put a limit to 250 it is also for warranty as you know driving your Ferrari on 325KMH is on its limits .
 

You got the point???

I paid for it I drive it as I wish how I wish …are you going to build your "custom" Ferrari? While it was adversities it can run 325 and you took the bait?

[Darko71]

For the money I paid for OMEN I could buy any other brand…ANY .

What I was looking for before I chose to buy :
1. Ability for future easy upgrade  ( OMEN pass)
2. In-built gaming capabilities  (OMEN pass )
3. Components’ and peripheral’s (Teaming with Steelseries OMEN pass)

4.extensively researching reviews and benchmarks which surprisingly where all very positive even mentioning Overclocking but not in detail so I didn’t hold much about however it was a misleading guide as obviously they were staged in a way I can see that now.

The unit I bought I was able to examine only form outside although there was a showroom model they didn’t allow It to be operational , none of the OMENs for that matter of fact while in other hand RAZERS , ALIENWARES and MSI all had operational showroom examples which I could examine more closely on the spot .

I liked the CUBE , and what I have seen the way of easy access , hdd bay’s and all together with a clear vision for future upgrade I took the decision to buy the OMEN ..however very soon I found out things are not that shiny at all .

Considering the upgrade now that I have the CORE it is far more easy for me to upgrade piece by piece then it is to get all the components imported . Now I can buy a component and easily bring it with me no one will give me hard time for one part so in a way there is a profit in all of this .
Only thing is I’m stranded with microATX format …somehow ridicules considering the sheer size of the CUBE and almost 30KG of weight . However I research and found quite powerful microATX motherboards form ASUS & MSI so that isn’t a big problem anyway.

However my opinion is this particular OMEN can do much more , much better even now with all this in- build components but we lack the tools , bios and control .